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Thread: Trend away from quad rails to less-railed hand guards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MookNW View Post
    How is muzzle jump/rise affected, if at all, when you drop up to a pound from the front of the gun (lightweight barrel/lightweight handguards)?
    Im betting you can feel something - my lightweight barrelled ar15 had a lot more muzzle rise/flip compared to a govt barrelled ar15 (friends rifle).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindeye_03 View Post
    Im betting you can feel something - my lightweight barrelled ar15 had a lot more muzzle rise/flip compared to a govt barrelled ar15 (friends rifle).
    I have 2 midlengths. One has a 14.5" Govt. profile, A2ext., and Troy MRF and the other has a 14.7" pencil barrel, Troy TRX rail and Battlecomp. There is right at 1lb. difference between the 2. Even so the lightweight, pencil barreled upper with Battlecomp is much easier to control.
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    Count me. Used to have quad rails on all of my AR's. Only 1 remains quad railed. i'm going to tubular. Lighter, easier to hold. Much simpler and much lighter. I like so much the TROY battlerail TRX. very slim and light.

    Quote Originally Posted by DHart View Post
    I see so many ARs with quad rails on them, acres and acres of rails that are just covered up with additional products (ladders).

    Did the industry sort of steer buyers into thinking they need acres of uber expensive rails on all four sides of the hand guard? And then a bunch of plastic ladders to cover all those rails up?

    I'm sure some guys make a lot of use of all that rail-age, and I can see how laddered rails can make for a good grip on the hand guard, but that seems to be a really expensive approach. I'm getting a sense that a lot of AR buyers are returning to the simpler, leaner, less-rail covered hand guards and that many experienced AR buyers are tending to steer away from quad rails.

    If I'm reading it right, the pulse seems to be leaning toward the TRX Extreme, VTAC, and the Magpul MOE and away from quad rails. I'm quite content with a VTAC, TRX, or MOE myself and can't really see the attraction of quad rails. I could be missing something, though.

    Do you think there is a trend to move away from quad rails and return to less-railed hand guards?
    Last edited by smoothdraw; 11-19-10 at 00:22.

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    From my perspective and being a recent AR owner I never saw the appeal for a quad rail for a civilian user when considering cost vs. various other factors. It was always the last upgrade I ever wanted to do to my gun, and once the MOE hand guard came out I realized I made the right choice in never buying one.

    When I was young i was part of a budding sport that was going through major technological developments, and I was sponsored. I watched things go way extreme in application before being pulled back into a kind of "form follows function" role. The first time I laid eyes on a quad rail I thought: "That thing looks way cool :drool:, but it's not practical at all." Haven't thought about one since.
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    I put IR lasers on every rifle I own, and an MOE or VTAC with a rail attached just doesn't cut it for reliability and precision.

    Plus, the VTAC and TRX look just straight up gay.
    Last edited by Eurodriver; 11-19-10 at 11:44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    I put IR lasers on every rifle I own, and an MOE or VTAC with a rail attached just doesn't cut it for reliability and precision.

    Plus, the VTAC and TRX look just straight up gay.
    Gay. Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    I put IR lasers on every rifle I own, and an MOE or VTAC with a rail attached just doesn't cut it for reliability and precision.

    Plus, the VTAC and TRX look just straight up gay.
    OK....I'm going out on a limb, since you're referring to personally owned rifles. So you're going to want IR lasers to be MOA accurate for the perp you have to shoot at 200 yards in a defensive nighttime scenario with NVGs on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    Gay. Really?
    I see the resemblance:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss Hogg View Post
    OK....I'm going out on a limb, since you're referring to personally owned rifles. So you're going to want IR lasers to be MOA accurate for the perp you have to shoot at 200 yards in a defensive nighttime scenario with NVGs on?
    Yea, if that is the case, then I say you need a quad rail. Or if you want to put a grenade launcher on the bottom with an IR laser. There are legit military applications for a quad rail, but if you read my post, I stated: "for civilian use" in the first sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    I put IR lasers on every rifle I own, and an MOE or VTAC with a rail attached just doesn't cut it for reliability and precision.

    Plus, the VTAC and TRX look just straight up gay.
    Way to post an opinion backed by absolutely no factual information or data. Thanks for the contribution!

    Could you please elaborate in regards to WHY these rails arent good enough for you and you've developed a homophobic fear of an inanimate cylindrical object? Sounds like someones got a problem....

    To date i havent read of anyone having any issues with the rails holding zero. Nor have i read about anyone saying these rails flex more than their competition due to the lighter weight.

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