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Yes bro, Gay. You never referred to ugly/abnormal/anything you didn't like as "Gay" before? You're a Marine right?
I know yesterday's Battalion PT was gay. Really, it was.
Yes. Why would I spend $3000 on a laser just to slap it on a screwed on rail that may potentially shift?
Civilian use has alot of different meanings. "Average plinker" or "weekend target shooter" may have been a better term. I have rifles for work use and civilian use. There is no difference between many, but some are solely cosmetic. Like my M16A4 and M4 clone but even my M4 clone has a laser.
Either way, the laser thing is a moot point. 99% of shooters dont have or need them. However I still stick to my guns that the tubular handguards are "Gay".We all have our likes and dislikes. I do not like them.
Last edited by Eurodriver; 11-19-10 at 12:27.
I don't need to elaborate shit. I don't like them. They're ugly. That's enough for me and it should be enough for you. This thread is starting to get off topic...
Edit: Lastly, are you honestly trying to say that a tube foreend with a screwed on rail is as stable and solid as a one-piece free float rail from a quality manufacturer (i.e. Larue/DD)? Especially with a 10oz laser on it? I cannot really answer your question until I know the answer to this.
Last edited by Eurodriver; 11-19-10 at 12:29.
That's an "interesting" setup on your Bushmaster. If it works for you, great. The fact that you say that you might have to use NVGs in a long-distance defensive scenario with pinpoint accuracy tells me all I need to know.
Have you ever tried a tube based on function, not aesthetics?
Last edited by Boss Hogg; 11-19-10 at 12:41.
My two cents. The regular ol' M4 I was issued, no rails, worked pretty well for me. I have two ARs now, one with a qual rail and one without, and as a range toy and property defense rifle, I much more prefer my non-railed rifle. To me it is a concept of 'less is more.'
This is a technical forum. If you have nothing to contribute in the way of technical information than why post anything at all? Do you like to hear the sound of your own voice because thats the way you're coming across.
IF the way in which the mount bolts to the barrel nut is solid, it doesnt matter if there are 3999 screws or one screw. The joint between said rail and the barrel nut is THE most important part in ANY free float rail. Materials and construction WILL play into the overall rigidity of the system but we arent looking at vastly inferior materials OR construction here going from the troy rails to say a DD rail.
Im not entirely sure why you're bashing a troy free float rail for supposedly having a lack of rigidity when you have a three thousand dollar aiming designator on a non free floated setup for the purposes of what...nostalgia?
Id call THAT gay...
See how much that statement makes sense?
IF someone can conclusively say that you're going to experience undue flex with a troy rail then perhaps for SOME civilians that are either forward mounting their optics or using lasers as supplementary aiming devices, may need to take heed. Ultimately this still needs to be supported with data and proven.
you call those tubular forearm "gay"? And you all have those expensive furnitures in your Bushmaster? Bushmaster...really?? And it shoots .233 Rem?? Nice.....
Do you still have any space to hold on to your forearm??? Are all of them necessary for day to day patrol or civilian defense?
But you have that PEQ-15 on TOP of your rail system. The rails on the top of the VTAC extreme are part of the unit. They are not screwed onto the rail. Any of the screwed on sections would just be for a flashlight or vertical foregrip if we're using your M4 clone as an example.
Maybe I'm missing it, I just see an average, run of the mill, hetero AR. Then again I'm no expert on these things.
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