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    Yeah I've got irons only, but that's only because I never set aside money for an EOTECH since my last Ar-15 got stolen over a deployment. With that said, its my only home defense weapon now since my glock got stolen as well and I'm fairly confident I could probably hip shoot someone in the head in the limited confides of my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dienekes View Post
    I shoot a low power compact ACOG because I have the eyes of the bat. There are a lot of things from my youth that I miss but this one was a relatively easy fix. Not cheap--just easy.
    I have to say I think any "power" (other that 1X) ACOG is about the worst home defence optic you could have. I have a 2500 square foot house and not one area where ANY magnification would help, in fact could get me in a bad spot real fast. IF I had any type of optic on a HD gun (like I did with my 870 police) it would be eotech or aim point. Again, you dont really need help when the guy is only 5 yards away.....
    FFL/SOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by orionz06 View Post
    I had irons only for a while, but I think many folks are kidding themselves when they go "irons only", it seems to be the trendy way to say that an Aimpoint is not in your budget yet.

    That being said, I value the trigger time with irons and will spend the first range trip with my SBR upon completion with irons only prior to zeroing the H-1.
    I would agree with this in my case. Every time I go to buy my optic, something big come up. Usually associated with a short tempered red head. I am going to go the TR-24G route.

    I run irons only on my primary, and I do not feel inadequate. irons require a skill set I don't want to part with either. I see the value in an aimpoint, but I don't think I am a second rate hack with out one. I am a second rate hack for many other reasons plus, I can draw on a coyote and bust him in the ass plenty quick with in 150 yards. My house isn't that big.
    "Oh, its a wonderful day! My sun is shining, my birds are chirping, my humongous chicken defeated Elmo." Huxley

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    I believe that in learning on a rifle and mastering it in its basic form, irons only, makes a person that much better when adding "accessories" later. While I train with irons quite often and feel I am very proficient with them, a red dot sight makes me that much better. In a defensive situation there is no way that I would not chose a red dot if I had the choice. I will take every advantage that I can get if my life or the lives of my family or others are on the line.

    Yes some people with astigmatism or other eye conditions may have a problem with a red dot. Generally more so with an EoTech due to the type of technology. The dot on the Aimpoint is generally a better option for these people.

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    My standard response:
    It's only dark half the day.

    Most people shoot in the light half of the day and don't understand how much better an RDS is in the dark. I'm not saying you can't make do with iron sights but they put you at a proven disadvantage vs an RDS.

    Quote Originally Posted by michael word View Post
    Another reason I went to iron sights is the fact that you do not have to worry about batteries dying or forgetting to remove the lens covers when you half asleep. When used with a good white light, I am able to see the front sight just fine.
    So now you have to rely on a battery powered white light in very dark situations to be able to see your sights. There are times when you should ID your target, move, then engage without using your light.

    My astigmatism makes shooting little groups off the bench hard with an RDS, it does not bother me at moderate/short range and at speed.

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    Good points. I'll keep my M2 on until I can afford the H1/T1/whatever.
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    I have a an Aimpoint H1 on my primary defense carbine, but the one I have shot and enjoyed the most lately is this one:



    Lightweight and more fun than a barrel full of monkeys!!!
    Back in the land of Waffle House and sweet tea!!!

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    Not another one of these I-am-my-own-hero-because-I-only-shoot-irons threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EzGoingKev View Post
    Not another one of these I-am-my-own-hero-because-I-only-shoot-irons threads.
    Allow me to toot my own horn and say, yes, I am super bad ass. JK. I don't really think that was anyone's intent. If you need lessons, I am sure one of us would be happy to help.
    "Oh, its a wonderful day! My sun is shining, my birds are chirping, my humongous chicken defeated Elmo." Huxley

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyPistolero View Post
    Just curious- Does anyone rock just irons on their primary/defensive AR? The more I shoot mine, the more I enjoy the light weight and the easy balance without my aimpoint on top. I suppose picking up a T1 would help, but I can buy my M&P for that much.
    Irons are fine, but remember that they have their downsides as well. If you do not know what they are, take either a low light class or shoot at moving targets (while standing still and on the move).


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