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    What are your thoughts on this open carry video?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BwQQ...layer_embedded

    Here is what I think. I am not LE yet, nor am I an expert on New Mexico laws but...

    Technically, the guy was right, by law he didnt have to show his ID. However, 1) why did he feel the need to travel to a traffic stop in progress and approach the officer? Especially while he had his gun? 2) There is a fine line between exc...ercising your 2nd amendment rights and being an asshat who is seeking to get into an argument with law enforcement over individual gun rights. I fully support and excercise my 2nd amendment rights, but people like this guy just make us gun owners look stupid. It does not matter what the situation is, if you are carrying, and if an officer asks for your ID, just be cooperative and show it to him. It saves alot of time, and ensures safety fpr both parties. If this guy really "valued his privacy" like he says he does, then he would spring for the concealment license so that he can carry with privacy. Anyone with a gun should fully understand police officers and the way they are trained to react to someone with a firearm. If someone who carries a handgun does understand this, then they would be more than willing to present their ID so that the officer knows what kind of person he is dealing with.

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    I have no use for fools like the guy on the video.
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    My thoughts:

    1. The guy in the video is a dumbass of epic proportions. Whether I was the cop or the person who had been stopped, the last thing I want is some idiot with a video camera and an openly displayed firearm intruding upon something that is none of his business.

    2. This doesn't belong in the handguns forum.

    3. When you act like an attention seeking retard, don't be surprised if you are rewarded with more attention.

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    1. It should be legal to video, record or photograph in any public place, whether it is a traffic stop, TSA search or whatever.

    2. There is no need to get close and provoke the police or distract the police so that they may be placed in danger.

    3. That cop in uniform is a douche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 500grains View Post
    1. It should be legal to video, record or photograph in any public place, whether it is a traffic stop, TSA search or whatever.

    2. There is no need to get close and provoke the police or distract the police so that they may be placed in danger.

    3. That cop in uniform is a douche.
    Are you insane? The officier is in the middle of a traffic stop and a guy with a camera and handgun approaches. There's a douchebag involved here but it's not the cop.

    I'm all of open carrying but this guy set out looking for trouble and he's not doing his fellow gun owners any favors with his stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4arc View Post
    Are you insane? The officier is in the middle of a traffic stop and a guy with a camera and handgun approaches. There's a douchebag involved here but it's not the cop.
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    He should not have approached the cop. But when told to get back, he did. Later in the vid when the cop stopped him, he could not articulate any probably cause for the stop. He just kept talking about "my scene" like so many petty tyrants. It's not his scene, although he did make a scene. Further he could not cite any law requiring a person open carrying to show ID.

    Yeah, the kid with the video was an annoying douche. Lots of people in society are annoying.

    Yeah, the cop in uniform was a power-hungry type douche. Unlawful stop, unlawful detention of non-suspect.

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    What a bunch of retards.

    Sad thing is those are among the sharper cats you'd find in New Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 500grains View Post
    1. It should be legal to video, record or photograph in any public place, whether it is a traffic stop, TSA search or whatever.

    2. There is no need to get close and provoke the police or distract the police so that they may be placed in danger.

    3. That cop in uniform is a douche.
    I agree. The kid was a douche too. The cops were baiting him hard and he was ballsy enough to walk away.He was right to not show his ID. Does not detract from the douchbaggery though. It was bullshit that he walked up to the scene.

    The LEO was chickenshit to let him walk, trail him and then stop him down the road. Way to think on your feet! It was wrong, and should be illegal for a cop to lie like that. "you need a license to carry in New Mexico." I thought cops couldnt detain (does this count?) without reasonable suspicion of wrong doing.

    The whole thing sucks. Everyone did it wrong.
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    Every player in that video is an idiot. When idiots get together, lots of stupid shit occurs. Thus we have this video...
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