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Thread: What are your thoughts on this open carry video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500grains View Post
    Probable cause does not mean you think the guy is annoying, don't like how he looks, etc.
    Actually the "etc". can very well be cause for a stop.
    Last edited by Jake'sDad; 11-23-10 at 01:47.

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    It's sad that everyone does not read the entire thread before replying to something that offends them.

    Jake's dad and 500grains...please drop it. You're both pretty off topic.
    Last edited by citizensoldier16; 11-23-10 at 01:46.
    A man with a gun is a citizen. A man without a gun is a subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizensoldier16 View Post
    It's sad that everyone does not read the entire thread before replying to something that offends them.
    Perhaps you could explain so you wouldn't have to be sad anymore.....

    Quote Originally Posted by citizensoldier16 View Post
    Jake's dad and 500grains...please drop it. You're both pretty off topic.
    Wow. A different opinion and I'm "off topic".

    Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    However, that doesn't provide the police with the right to detain someone and require ID, and both of the police officers should have known that.
    There was no detention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake'sDad View Post
    There was no detention.
    There was and they did.

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    Here we go....the unending "is law enforcement good or bad" debate coupled with arguing about the video. Mods, unfortunately I think its about time to shut this one down before the kids get out of hand.
    Last edited by citizensoldier16; 11-23-10 at 11:32.
    A man with a gun is a citizen. A man without a gun is a subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizensoldier16 View Post
    Here we go....the unending "is law enforcement good or bad" debate coupled with arguing about the video. Mods, unfortunately I think its about time to shut this one down before the kids get out of hand.
    I see talk about this incident. No reason to lock the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizensoldier16
    Lets be professional here and not try to skew the original intent of the OP from the rights of citizens to the invariable unending debate of the merits of law enforcement as a whole.
    Quote Originally Posted by M4arc View Post
    Good advice and good timing. There will be a post coming very soon (from yours truly) about this very subject in the near future
    Seems that way...
    A man with a gun is a citizen. A man without a gun is a subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    There was and they did.
    No. There was no detention. They talked to him. At no point did they restrain him, or tell him he wasn't free to leave. Heck, they never disarmed him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelebowski View Post
    I see talk about this incident. No reason to lock the thread.
    Some folks don't take kindly to differing opinions, or pointing out facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizensoldier16 View Post
    The video depicted two professional (however misinformed) officers and a citizen who knew his rights and exercised them under pressure from the officers to waive them. Nothing more, nothing less.
    I agree.

    I'd add two undertrained and unprepared police officers, and a citizen with poor judgment.

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