I have shot my wilson combat UT15 to 700 with an ACOG and made first round hits on steel. With my M4 I never shot past 500 with irons but with practice your confidence grows and first round hit become more common for me.
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I have shot my wilson combat UT15 to 700 with an ACOG and made first round hits on steel. With my M4 I never shot past 500 with irons but with practice your confidence grows and first round hit become more common for me.
While this is great info, it is not regarding the purpose of this post. I'm a Civvie, and any defensive situation would be around 20 FEET or so. There is little question about the effectiveness of 5.56 NATO at this range (especially with a good load). Also, at this range, ID'ing a threat would be very easy, as well (i.e. a stranger breaking into one's residence) As a civilian, I would hope to never be in a situation where I was being fired on from a distance!
My question was intended to be purely hypothetical. Also very general. Thanks for the input and thanks for your service as a LEO.
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IWC has a Lewis Machine & Tool, Inc MRP CQB with the 16" barrel, the standard one, not the SS version.
We have an ACOG TA11-FG Green CrossHair reticle with a LaRue Mount.
Routinely when we go on the Pawnee National Grasslands east of Timnath, CO, we're able to get 9/10 hits on a 18" x 18" steel plate at 600M, using a bipod prone, usually in slight wind.
77gr Sierra Fiocchi MK262.
All day long...
If you shoot at Pawnee with only slight wind then you are usually luckier than I am![]()
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This. There is a big difference in combat effectiveness and deer hunting. Please clarify your actual intent of the original question. If you're asking about hunting game, I wouldn't recommend a .223 period. However, if it's all you have, then use a properly designed bullet for hunting and limit your shots to broadside only shots through the lungs, not the shoulder.
You guys make it sound like you can't get good bullets for your guns.
Seventy yards, lung/heart/lung, stopped her(admittedly small)ass cold.
Corbon DPX Hunter 53 gr. Bullet punched through bone(not the spaces) on both sides of her rib cage and kept on flying.
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I didn't clarify because my question was intended to be vague. BUT, the different responses regarding game/2-legged-upright-walking critters/paper made this worth it. I didn't have a specific 'soft target' in mind when I originally asked the Q. Just a curious question that felt OK to ask. BTW, I am no professional shooter, but I'm not a newb as well. I've been shooting the AR platform for 6 years now. I am always seeking new knowledge on this subject.
Thank all of you for the various responses.
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