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Thread: SureFire 60rd and 100rd AR magazines

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    Quote Originally Posted by outrider627 View Post
    Maybe surefire is hoping the IAR will be used in some situations as a mounted machine gun and 100 round mag would be perfect for that.

    Do Bradleys still have the M231? It's the only other weapon I can think of that can use the 100 round mag effectively.
    Seeing M231 written anywhere near the word effective is funny. I hope somebody on the design team still gets a laugh outta that thing.

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    I'll grab a 60 rounder to T&E when they are released. The 100 rounder should be abandoned, can't see any real world application for that, given it's akward size.

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    I'll fancy me a 60 rounder.... What the hell.... If I can put a few thousand rounds through it with out a problem, then I'll keep it. If it's problematic, I'll sell it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHoffman View Post
    I agree. I think a 30 (35?) round mag at the regular 20rd. mags length would be nice. I would personally use designs such as this to make the mags smaller rather than larger. But no one would be impressed with a stubby 30 rounder versus the big 100. More shock appeal I guess.
    This is more appealing to me as well. Something short and fat, just a bit longer than the standard 20rd maybe and capable of holding something like 45 rounds. But maybe I am being short-sighted. I wouldn't want to lose quick handling, though. I've never tried a ready mod or similar though so I don't know what it's like to have an additional pound of weight at the mag well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlatoCATM View Post
    This is more appealing to me as well. Something short and fat, just a bit longer than the standard 20rd maybe and capable of holding something like 45 rounds. But maybe I am being short-sighted. I wouldn't want to lose quick handling, though. I've never tried a ready mod or similar though so I don't know what it's like to have an additional pound of weight at the mag well.
    I've thought about this too, but I think that the problem is that you need more than 2 staggered stacks in the mag and much of the portion of the 20-rounders that sticks out from the magwell is the spring and follower. To get more rounds, you need more length outside the magwell to make more staggered stacks. I think that the length of a 30-rounder is the shortest you could see to make an appreciable difference in round count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlatoCATM View Post
    This is more appealing to me as well. Something short and fat, just a bit longer than the standard 20rd maybe and capable of holding something like 45 rounds. But maybe I am being short-sighted. I wouldn't want to lose quick handling, though. I've never tried a ready mod or similar though so I don't know what it's like to have an additional pound of weight at the mag well.
    The redi mod is heavy but comforting. I only have one because of the weight and expense. This 60 rounder would offer you the choice and options. I have not completely made up my mind on the redi mod.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    Very interesting. It is great to see Surfire enter the heart of the gun world - with their experience building suppressors, lights and lasers, if they certify their 60/100 mags as good to go I bet they are.

    For me I personally see more utility in the 60 rounders than the 100 rounders. For someone using the IAR type of rifles, the 100 would likely be the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spooky130 View Post
    Very interesting. It is great to see Surfire enter the heart of the gun world - with their experience building suppressors, lights and lasers, if they certify their 60/100 mags as good to go I bet they are.

    For me I personally see more utility in the 60 rounders than the 100 rounders. For someone using the IAR type of rifles, the 100 would likely be the way to go.
    The 100 rounder would rock in a fixed defensive position. I know I would have liked one here:



    You can not see the M60 behind us but as the ammo man providings security for the gun team would be easier with 100 rounds. In a well prepared fighting position it would shine. Not so much in the prone. I used 20 rounders in the prone (on the range) so I could get closer to the ground. Obviously even more important when rounds are coming at you.
    Last edited by usmcvet; 12-05-10 at 11:54. Reason: I am the kid on the left.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skintop911 View Post
    Can't help but think that SF should stay firmly focused on making the best illumination tools on the market, but if they can pull it off, let's take a look.
    The business sector has begun to allow workers to produce ideas and products according to whatever they desire to do for a small amount of time each week. The only thing is that they actually have to produce something and not spend those hours on forums, facebook, etc. Businesses have found that important ideas and products come out of this flex time and keeps employees happy, engaged, and creative. When bosses stifle these employee attributes it leads to workers who meet the status quo at best, and complete burn out (no pun intended).

    I wish I could work for a company that allowed this. This is just some info that I heard from a Seth Godin speech, but shows on the discovery channel featuring small metal shops, and weapons products coming from a light manufacturer seem to prove the concept.

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    Not so sure about the 100 rounder, maybe for the weapon the Marines want to field to suppliment the M249.

    The 60 rounder really has potential if it is reliable and cost effective. Beta-C mags are to expensive for most people to be practical and have "issues" sometimes. The 60 rounder may be nice balance of size and weight and capacity. 3 gunners should like them and even in squad support level role they would be handy to have a few tucked away.
    "Run fast. Shoot straight. Die proud." -Boba Fett

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