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Thread: Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It?

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    If this is just a range rifle. Keep the rifle and shoot it, don't worry about malfunctions until they happen. Correct the issues as they arise. Don't spend money on upgrades that bring little value to a range rifle

    If this is going to be a fighting rifle, then you need to be concerned about minimizing potential future problems.

    Thanks for your service.. stay safe

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    I don't see the problem. It seems you are worried about the rifle's reliability when shooting Wolf. Wolf is suitable for range duty where 100% reliability isn't needed. For fighting purposes you won't be using Wolf so there isn't a problem. Then there is the fact that you haven't had any problems shooting Wolf to date.

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    My rule on this issue with all guns: If it bothers you, it will continue to bother you until you fix it. Even if it is not a "real" issue in any measurable (so far) sense, the bother it causes you will get to you eventually and no matter how many times you try and tell yourself you are "fine with it", change the offending part/gun. Better off doing it up front and stop worrying about it.

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    There are two sides to this argument.

    The one is that bird-in-hand>bird-in-bush. You have it. Shoot it. Abuse it. Find something actually wrong with it. I have been in classes using combination of guns/ammo that caused me no issues whatsoever up to that point and the 1k rounds/day in that particular class exposed a lot of issues. Current production Wolf sticking in my chambers is a perfect example of this.

    The other is that we own these things for peace of mind. If you've begun to have doubts in your tools and do not have the time/means/ability to test it to reassure yourself those doubts can weigh heavy. Of course, just because something is made by a company with a better reputation does not guarantee that it's going to work any better. More likely? yes. Guarantee? no way in hell.

    So either way you need to get out and prove your tools to yourself. For me personally I have found that about a 500+ rounds/day firing schedule starts to expose issues that I may not see in less harsh settings. The gun starts to get heated up, it starts to get some dirt in it from going prone, lube starts to dry up, etc. and things just start going wrong that I may never have seen happen in the previous 5k rounds through that gun in applications where it might be 100 rounds in a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e1harris View Post
    I hear ya, and you know what... you're absolutely right. However, I think I have it stuck in my head that it's principle.

    I shouldn't have to replace a barrel that only has 680 rounds through it. I feel like I have to give this lettle fella a fightin' chance. What if I got one of the 3 out of 10 good barrels that CMMG made?


    I kinda feel bad raggin' on CMMG as I havn't even had a single malfunction yet, (I just didn't know about their "tight" chamber reputation till 4 years after I bought the rifle)
    you're absolutely right. the smartest thing to do is to have what you got checked out and brought up to spec if needed. from what I can see, CMMG tries to do most things right. I would put them solidly in the middle of the pack.

    ok then, at that price, just buy that barrel and stash it for later...

    never push a wrench...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonhgross View Post
    My rule on this issue with all guns: If it bothers you, it will continue to bother you until you fix it. Even if it is not a "real" issue in any measurable (so far) sense, the bother it causes you will get to you eventually and no matter how many times you try and tell yourself you are "fine with it", change the offending part/gun. Better off doing it up front and stop worrying about it.
    Man! Truer words have never been spoken...
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana71 View Post
    After a while, you're going to think about that upper and how it's probably cold, frightened, lonely... and wondering what it did to make you angry.
    You almost made me spit my fruity flakes all over the computer screen!


    BAD RIFLE!! BAD!!!
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

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    What I would do if I were you, on return from deployment, is to treat youself to a 1000 round case of Tulas finest....then go and shoot the lot in a day...maybe with a quick field clean somewhere in the middle. If you have no problems after that....then worry no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SA80Dan View Post
    What I would do if I were you, on return from deployment, is to treat youself to a 1000 round case of Tulas finest....then go and shoot the lot in a day...maybe with a quick field clean somewhere in the middle. If you have no problems after that....then worry no more.
    Eh.... already have 5k of Wolf that I bought cheap years ago.

    But I like the way you think. Man.... could you imagine the blisters that'll form after a 1k round day!
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

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    bad ammo rant

    I don't see the problem. It seems you are worried about the rifle's reliability when shooting Wolf. Wolf is suitable for range duty where 100% reliability isn't needed. For fighting purposes you won't be using Wolf so there isn't a problem. Then there is the fact that you haven't had any problems shooting Wolf to date.
    Word. The issue is, there are people who think nothing of spending $2,000 on an AR-style rifle whose definition of "best" is that it will eat thousands of rounds of steel-cased, lacquer-coated decade-old ammunition -- the worst possible available. They are some of the same people who will tell you your rifle is garbage because it won't pass this test. They also trash products on web forums like this because they fail to meet their expectations when coupled with garbage ammunition. They'll say their scope won't hold zero because they're getting 5 MOA groups or that the chamber is wrong or the extractor is bad because it won't pull lacquered-up rounds glued into the chamber.

    IMHO, these are people who have more money than sense. They should have bought themselves an SKS or spent the extra money hoarding surplus USGI ammo.

    I want to be clear that I am not making assumptions that the OP falls into this category, and I have no beef with people who shoot cheapo Russian ammo. All-in-all, I say do what you want. I am quite curious to see the outcome of this test and I understand why it is being done (and that this reason has nothing to do with my rant).

    Edited to add that according to the OP, the reason has everything to do with my rant
    Last edited by tfltackdriver; 12-09-10 at 16:23.

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