Not impressed with the one I examined/shot.
So, no, not a fan.
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Springfield's do. The hammer, sear, and disconnector.
Easily replaceable with many quality parts like Wilson, Vickers, Ed Brown, etc....
Although, I never changed out the MIM parts on my Springfield MC Operator and I shot the hell out of that and used it in several high count classes and never had any issues.
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Went to the range today with 300 rds. of Win. wb. Took my PT 1911, mim parts and all, along with the mags from my son's PT. Four Taurus PT 1911 mags in all and the guns were bought from two different dealers. 1280 rds on my PT before putting all 300 rds through, today. 100 rds at 50yds, 100 rds at 25yds, and two short rapid fire sessions (four full mags, twice) at seven yds. The rest I just pissed around with at 7yds with a couple of people and one of the range masters. Range master thought the gun felt solid. I was pleased when he shot out the whole top of the bullseye with eight shots, about an inch.5 group. Not as pleased as he was though since he does not shoot a .45 much, or so he says. Anyway, not one single hiccup, even when the guy's wife beside me shot four rds (they were shooting a Ruger SR9 I believe). I have not had the followers out of the mags on either gun since new. 1580 rds. is not much, but it is 1580 without a single failure of any kind, even when other people have shot it. Son's PT only has about 80 rds. on it, but it has not shown any "new gun" characteristics, and no failures.
If you don't want mim parts, then there are several nice 1911's you are going to have to take off your list, unless you replace the mim parts. Some people don't agree and that is ok, but I do not fix things that aren't broke.
Last edited by 300WM; 12-12-10 at 01:26.
The whole MIM thing doesn't really bother me as long as you know what the pistol contains and if it has a fair price point. I am not sure why, probably marketing, that there are guns on the market that have a ton of MIM yet demand high prices. On the other hand, quite a few respected "modern" pistols contain MIM parts and have good track records.
My experience has been better with MIM than machined steel components but I will say that there were obvious flaws in the failed parts. The issue, just like AR parts, is the questionable quality of the parts from some of these manufacturers. Taurus is not know as having high quality parts in their guns and nobody on a professional level recommends them. This is not because they are gun snobs but because they have experience with guns breaking.
Harrell if you are happy with your Taurus then I wish you the best but until I personally see better quality from the guns then I will stick with what I have. I won't go as far as saying that you got a good deal but I will say that you probably got what you paid for.
"The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental." John Steinbeck
I disagree with you. I think you really must spend that much or more. I have a friend that is a 1911 gunsmith and even with him working for free it would cost more than 1000$ to even put one together with good parts.
The 1911 is very unlike the AK47. The 1911 takes a ton of hand fitting work to make it a reliable and accurate weapon. The AK47 is on the other side of that spectrum
I went to a GSSF match that was pretty big in Atlanta, GA. Only one guy had a malfunction... He went to the glock armorer and had a bad part. It was replaced and he was 100% all day. Hundereds of people with many different caliber Glocks were here that day.
I went to a CDP class IDPA match in the same city and almost every 1911 had at least one malfunction, and every 1911 guy had mags that cost alot of cash. My friends 1911 was the only one that did not have problems. That is not hard to comprehend because his dad and grandfather were 1911 gunsmiths. He better know what he is doing... LOL....
I love 1911s, they are amazing! DO NOT CHEAP OUT! YOU WILL BE SORRY! Start with a springfield loaded and you will be happy. Even new it might need work or just personal touches. 100% of the 1911 is customizable and everyone prefers different things.
Last edited by fhpchris; 12-12-10 at 02:57.
USMC vet.
Oh hell, I love Taurus 1911s. I use them as door stops and boat anchors - they are great!
Last edited by ShipWreck; 12-12-10 at 07:57.
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