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Thread: Samson Evolution Rail-First Impressions.

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    OP mentioned that the preproduction model did not allow "shotgunning" due to interference from clamping block.
    Is this still the case with the production version?
    Am very interested in the 12" Ranier vesion, to replace an 11" Noveske SWS. Want to save some weight; guess it would save around 5 oz. Is that a reasonable assumption?
    Thanks for any feedback.

    Mark

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    So far I have put about 300rds thru my LWRC M6A2 upper with the Rainier/Samson rail installed and have no issues with the rail slipping and it feels alot better in my medium-sized hands than the OEM 9" unit. I like the extra reach offered by the 12.3x" rail and it is a winner...

    Stan

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    Rob, thm, jas, uspopo: is there enough limitation to shotgunning to make it a major issue?

    Thanks,
    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpom View Post
    OP mentioned that the preproduction model did not allow "shotgunning" due to interference from clamping block.
    Is this still the case with the production version?
    Am very interested in the 12" Ranier vesion, to replace an 11" Noveske SWS. Want to save some weight; guess it would save around 5 oz. Is that a reasonable assumption?
    Thanks for any feedback.

    Mark
    The bottom of the clamping block contacts the front of the lower if you swing it out wide enough, but there is ample room to shotgun it open for cleaning and PM. I guesstimate you can get about 85 degrees of swing before contact is made.

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    Thanks, Eric.
    I currently have 90 degrees with the SWS system, so it doesn't sound like much of a difference. Maybe I can sell the Noveske marked SWS for the price of the Ranier Evolution...

    Mark

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    Just to confirm.

    The production version has changed to allow almost a full range of motion on the upper during takedown.

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    Thanks for the info, Magz. Think I know what my Chanuka gift to myself is going to be.

    Mark

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    Nice rifle USpopo!

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    Just to post some feedback. I ended up selling my samson evo rail system because no matter what I did, the rail kept on sliding off the barrel nut. When I was bench firing the recoil would cause the rail to walk forward. Within 50 rounds there would be at least a 3mm gap. It was so bad that I would always have to keep a allen wrench handy to reseat it. Which would mean it would always throw off my irons. I am not sure if they fixed this issue on newer models. I purchased mine way back in march, before Rainier even released theirs. Just wondering if others ended up having the same issue. I replaced it with a troy and never got that walking issue again.
    "You done good. Remember the rules of home gun smithing: Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with a torch/dremel, grind it to fit, paint it to match with a sharpie!"

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    This the max angle at which you can shot gun the upper.


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