Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 13 of 13

Thread: US Ordnance modeM16M4 Carbine

  1. #11
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    12
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy MSG View Post
    The answer is contracts. Colt through whatever way, has managed to continue keep the M4 contract and is the sole provider of M4s and M4A1s. FN however does however make a lot of the M16A4s and the M16A2s before them. Congress has been doing a lot of pushing for the last several years and I wouldn't be surprised if that changes soon. Recently Colt won a contract to produce M240s, the better question is with US Ordinance being in the machinegun business, did they compete for the M240 contract?
    I'm with you there also. A bit OT here but the M240 is a formidable weapon design and in the hands of a decent gunner it will help any war fighter meet his end state.

    _______

    You are in the business because you are breathing. -- Louis Armstrong
    Last edited by smoothisfastmanila; 12-15-10 at 02:20.

  2. #12
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    12
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by fdxpilot View Post
    Just remember that in an FMS sale, the US military entity, in this case TACOM, is basically just administering the transfer. They are kind of like an FFL. They probably didn't have anything to do with selection of whatever weapons are being sold. That is strictly between the manufacturers and the buyer. It can be based on any number of factors, quality and function usually being low on the priority list behind price, kickbacks, and politics.

    For instance, Bushmaster has sold thousands of ARs to third world countries through FMS sales, while having only 1 quickly cancelled contract with the actual US military.

    You are right.

    Its just odd why price, kickbacks, and politics drive the purchase or sale of a defense item and not often quality and function when all of us here are in the business of saving lives. The last two (i.e. quality and function) often assists to the success of servicemen in harm's way.

    ________

    You are in the business because you are breathing. -- Louis Armstrong

  3. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    233
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by fdxpilot View Post
    Just remember that in an FMS sale, the US military entity, in this case TACOM, is basically just administering the transfer. They are kind of like an FFL. They probably didn't have anything to do with selection of whatever weapons are being sold. That is strictly between the manufacturers and the buyer. It can be based on any number of factors, quality and function usually being low on the priority list behind price, kickbacks, and politics.

    For instance, Bushmaster has sold thousands of ARs to third world countries through FMS sales, while having only 1 quickly cancelled contract with the actual US military.
    Yep, a prime example is when the Omanis ordered Carbon 15 via FMS.

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •