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    Helping a new guy

    Hey everyone - I've been doing some research and trying to learn more about the AR-15 platform. Google and sites like this one are helping a lot, but I still have not even opened the cover of this book if you will.

    I'll get to the point of my request though instead of boring everyone. I am looking for a quality AR (leaning toward BCM) that is very smooth with limited muzzle climb. I have watched a lot of videos and there are some obvious differences in recoil/muzzle climb in them. Obviously choice of ammo, buffers used, muzzle break/flash suppressor used, etc effect this. I just need some help with many random'ish questions.

    Flash suppressor v/s a Muzzle break
    Slings
    Magazines
    Ammo
    Probably many more topics LOL

    Do any of you use Yahoo messenger? I'd love chat with some knowledgeable folks in order to answer some questions I have. I tend to be a little ADD when it comes to forums/emails and messenger allows me to quickly go down different rabbit trails as my thought process changes. If so I'll PM my ID or you can PM yours. Also that isn't to say replies in this thread are unwelcome by any means. Thanks everyone!

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    While there are mechanical aids in reducing muzzle rise, a proper shooting stance does wonders.

    Welcome to the board, most of what you are seeking is going to be found in threads that are already existing. Certain things like slings and ammo, as well as many others are going to depend on what role you weapon is looking to fill. There is no one answer that will work for everyone.
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    I agree with Stickman. Some items can aid in reducing recoil but the 223/5.56 is not a heavy round at all so recoil is not bad. Grip and shooting stance matter most
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDough View Post
    I agree with Stickman. Some items can aid in reducing recoil but the 223/5.56 is not a heavy round at all so recoil is not bad. Grip and shooting stance matter most
    +1


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    Is it me, or are people overly obsessed with reducing recoil in a round that has very little to start with? It's not like shooting .308.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Is it me, or are people overly obsessed with reducing recoil in a round that has very little to start with? It's not like shooting .308.
    No kidding. Just he other week, my friend's wife didn't want to shoot my carbine "because it will kick too much." Had to start her out with the 22 kit to convince her otherwise.

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    I agree with Stickman and MrDough, It doesn’t matter about muzzle climb/recoil if you don’t know how to properly handle the weapon, ie stance, grip, sight pic and so on....Learn the basics and proper weapons handling and then worry about the rest later.

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    I am going to come up with a standard post I'm going to insert into all threads like this. Barring that at this time...

    Get a gun. Any gun. Really, I'm not not kidding. Go get an Olympic Arms. Go get a DPMS. Go get a pre-ban Hesse for crying out loud, but go get a damn gun. Buy a Colt or a Noveske or a BCM if you can, but buy a damn gun. Buy mags. Buy ammo. Buy mags and ammo. Buy ammo and mags. Get a sling. It doesn't matter which one. Go take a quality, beginner level, fundamentals class. Do it now. Not tomorrow. Stop ****ing around and go do it.

    Then come back and we'll talk.

    People are wasting so much time and effort worrying about and debating things that they have no way of quantifying. "I want reduced recoil" or "I want light weight" or "I want a shorter barrel" or "what stock/grip/forend should I buy" or "what's the best light for home defense". Stop. Go get a gun, go learn how to operate the gun, go shoot the hell out of the gun, and then lets have an intelligent discussion based on actual use instead of a theoretical discussion based in ignorance.

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    Me thinks

    Rob S has reached his BS patience level. Guess we are getting too much COD crowd type questions.
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    All you need to do is read. Read back through the other threads, make a decision, then follow Rob's advice.

    On another note can't we start just smashing people for this nonsense. If they're gonna try and waste our time and webspace with bullshit, just tell them to put their glasses on and start looking through old threads??

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