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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidskie View Post
    Second - I tend to extensively research my purchases in order to avoid investing additional time/frustration/money at a later date due to limited knowledge on the subject. I wanted to start drawing on the collective to help me do just that.
    As a fellow obsessive researcher I'm going to tell you something you don't want to hear:
    This doesn't work. It can't. It never will. Not with something as complex and personal as a firearm, especially the . The time you are wasting researching the purchase would be better spent on the range. I am telling you this as someone who has made this mistake over and over and over again. No amount of internet research will trump actual range time and good instruction. None. Ever. It can't.

    I will not be surprised, hurt, or offended, if you don't take me advice. In fact I fully expect that you will not. Not many people seem to these days. When I dolled out "buy this and that and the other thing" people followed the advice all the time. Now that I tell them "buy a high quality basic gun and go get familiar with it", not so much. So you won't surprise me when you do the same.

    but I won't stop reiterating what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Is it me, or are people overly obsessed with reducing recoil in a round that has very little to start with? It's not like shooting .308.
    It's all about comfort. I don't shoot often and don't want to spend much money on ammo or training. I just like black rifles and want them to be as pleasant as possible when I finally do get to the range. I want an equipment solution to a training problem.

    A BCM 14.5" LW middy with a Battlecomp 1.5 and an ACE entry stock was the answer for me because it's smooth and it fits. It doesn't hurt that I get to feel good about having a decent rifle if I ever decide to take shooting seriously.

    Questions like the OP keep popping up here because M4C has the best info and the guys like me who ask the silly, easily researchable questions are looking for easy answers just like they are looking for an equipment solution to a training problem. Did I mention we want it on a budget too? That would be the same budget that doesn't allow for proper training or a decent supply of ammo.
    Last edited by Durham68; 12-23-10 at 11:56.

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    The first time my sister and her friends shot my AR, their shoulder started to hurt after a few shots. Albeit, she and her friends have never shot a rifle before so I got one of those rubber butt pads for the standard stock so they would have an enjoyable time the next time. If she thought the AR was bad, she shouldn't try the SKS . That is probably the only thing I would recommend to reduce felt recoil and it's cheap so like it or not, it's easily removable.

    Recoil is like pain, it's subjective. Why spend a whole bunch of money from the start based off what people say without truly knowing yourself? For all you know, all that stuff like muzzle brakes, piston buffers, etc. would have made no difference to your perception of recoil without the stuff; you'll never know because your rifle was modded from the start. Start with a plane Jane rifle and try shooting and experimenting from there
    Last edited by MrDough; 12-23-10 at 12:46.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDough View Post
    Recoil is like pain, it's subjective. Why spend a whole bunch of money from the start based off what people say without truly knowing yourself?
    Living in a ban state, I have to have the muzzle device permed so trial and error isn't much of an option.
    Last edited by Durham68; 12-23-10 at 13:01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durham68 View Post
    Living in a ban state, I have to have the muzzle device permed so trial and error isn't much of an option.
    You could have a gunsmith remove it for you or do it yourself if you know how. I understand it would cost more but what if you did not like the muzzle device? You would run into a similar situation and take a loss for the more expensive muzzle brake
    Last edited by MrDough; 12-23-10 at 13:26.
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