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    Quote Originally Posted by pilotguyo540 View Post
    I don't think an EMP would do that much damage. Sure it would cost billions to get back to where we are now, but I think Americans are some pretty crafty mo'fo's when we need to be.
    The EMP would NOT do any phyiscal damage. It's the damage done to anything with a 'diode' which, unfortunetly is just about everything we use today. With a 75-90% casuality rate after the first 3 months, I think it's somthing to be concerned about......

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    EMP video

    I read "One Second After" about six months ago and have been looking into this threat. This video is a good explanation of the theory.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0odJKYTzXg8

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsgard View Post
    The high altitude EMPs that have the most range effect electrical transmission lines the most while possibly leaving electronics "off the grid" uncompromised.

    Studies have also shown that EMP protection is fairly simple and where its not viable repair is fairly straightforward.

    EMP studies have been around since the 40s. Its not like its a new thing. I would be more worried about the neutron bomb. i know if the electrical grid goes down that I WILL survive.

    High altitude EMP's are the most feared for a reason. They would cause a "grid down" senerio for a year, possibly more. Do use realize we depend on OVERSEAS distributors for ALL of our electrical transformers?? The EMP commission has said that it would take AT LEAST a year to get just the transformers made overseas. That's just the transformers. Who's going to replace them?? What about all the other critical components that will be fried and need replacing? And yes, EMP protection is fairly straightforward, BUT WE ARE NOT PROTECTING OUR GRID. The military is the only one doing anything about this. EMP is not a new thing, yea your right. The Russians have been testing effects of EMP since the early sixties. In fact, they have HIGH YIELD nukes in there arsonal, WHY?? You may want to Google 'Soviet Test 184'...........

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    1776... I know quite a bit about this threat. In fact, been studying it for a while now.

    I monitor this site all the time. Some interesting information on there... http://www.empactamerica.org/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorDG View Post
    I read "One Second After" about six months ago and have been looking into this threat. This video is a good explanation of the theory.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0odJKYTzXg8
    I too have read One Second After. This is pretty much what would happen after an EMP attack. The author has done extensive research on EMP and has been trying to educate the public to what has been called the doomsday weapon. I just can't believe that with so much evidence on what Iran, North Korea, and even Russia have been doing, AND SAYING on EMP that most people don't know that this is probably the worst thing that would happen to the U.S. and it could happen tomorrow with NO warning.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMack View Post
    1776... I know quite a bit about this threat. In fact, been studying it for a while now.

    I monitor this site all the time. Some interesting information on there... http://www.empactamerica.org/
    That is the site I get most of my info from!! Thanks for posting it so that others can learn more about what I believe is our biggest threat today. Should have done it myself. I listen to the live podcasts every Wed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1776 Patriot View Post
    They would cause a "grid down" senerio for a year, possibly more.

    It takes a year (18 months) to manufacture one of the large transformers. Currently, there is a three year waiting list. The demand of completely outfitting all essential generators and substations would spike the wait exponentially. Nat Geo's Explorer did a program on this, and I recall it being said that it would take 10 years to bring the U.S.A. back to pre-detonation condition. The name of the program was Electronic Armageddon. It was on Hulu some time back.

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    I would need to see some good evidence that a transformer could be taken down by an EMP. They take lightening strikes on a regular basis and survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zpo View Post
    It takes a year (18 months) to manufacture one of the large transformers. Currently, there is a three year waiting list. The demand of completely outfitting all essential generators and substations would spike the wait exponentially. Nat Geo's Explorer did a program on this, and I recall it being said that it would take 10 years to bring the U.S.A. back to pre-detonation condition. The name of the program was Electronic Armageddon. It was on Hulu some time back.
    I think you can make a transformer in much less time. Really it is a bucket with 2 windings (calculated to drop to the appropriate voltage) insulated insulated from each other. This is repeated 3 times in a typical industrial transformer, but we have all of the materials to build them here. We have people who can make them too. They are very robust. I am more concerned with power generation failure. Solid state components are likely to fail. These are small controlling electronic components usually found on printed circuit boards. Main electrical components are usually little more than copper wire. An EMP is not going to hurt copper wire.
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    MarshallDodge- Google the E3 effects of EMP, thats the transformer killer.

    pilotguyo540- Thats the timeframe for the 100 ton and larger transformers on power stations and sub stations, not the little ones on poles. And the large ones are no longer made in this country, globalization.

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