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    11.5" with an 11" Troy TRX Extreme

    I am in the planning stages of my SBR build and am trying to figure out my upper. I know what I want, but I dont know if it will work. I tried to do some searching, but I couldnt find anything definitive.

    What I want is an 11.5" upper with an 11" Troy TRX Extreme tube on it with a Battle Comp 1.0. Does this combo fit together or would I have to go with a 9" tube? I am 99% sure I will never put a suppressor on the gun so I am not worried about clearance behind the BC1.0.

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    This set up does indeed work. M4C member TwoSqueeze has this exact set up, I'll refrain from reposting his pictures but check page 80 of the official sbr picture thread to get some flavor for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix View Post
    This set up does indeed work. M4C member TwoSqueeze has this exact set up, I'll refrain from reposting his pictures but check page 80 of the official sbr picture thread to get some flavor for it.
    Thanks

    Looks exactly like what I want to do. I figured everything would look good together just wasnt sure about the fit of it.

    Now to BC 1.0 or Noveske KX3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjacobs View Post
    Thanks

    Looks exactly like what I want to do. I figured everything would look good together just wasnt sure about the fit of it.

    Now to BC 1.0 or Noveske KX3.
    Unless you're building the rifle for "looks" i would recommend aginst the KX3.

    I never understood why people get a SBR just to add a muzzle device that adds more than 3" to it. Unless your SBR is a marginal Performer I would get a BC. If my SBR required KX3 to function i would get another SBR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryu_sekai View Post
    Unless you're building the rifle for "looks" i would recommend aginst the KX3.

    I never understood why people get a SBR just to add a muzzle device that adds more than 3" to it. Unless your SBR is a marginal Performer I would get a BC. If my SBR required KX3 to function i would get another SBR.
    I know the purpose of the KX3(to help SBR's run correctly). I guess I didnt realize it was 3", which is almost double what the BC1.0 is(1.7" according the BC).

    I think I should be fine with the BC1.0 and an H2 buffer(seems to be what lots of guys with 11.5" run).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjacobs View Post
    I know the purpose of the KX3(to help SBR's run correctly). I guess I didnt realize it was 3", which is almost double what the BC1.0 is(1.7" according the BC).

    I think I should be fine with the BC1.0 and an H2 buffer(seems to be what lots of guys with 11.5" run).
    You will not be disappointed with the BC it's a very effective brake. I run it on my 10.5 MRP AND 16 ML BCM.

    If you have multiple buffers I would try all of them and see which one is the smoothest. On my 10.5 I used the carbine, H, Stt2, and H2. It was the smoothest with the carbine. Just remember the heavier parts means more recoil. The use of heavier buffers is to soften up recoil on over gassed uppers. (if that makes sense) I.e. Over gassed + Heavier buffer = lighter recoil, lower gas + heavier buffer = more recoil. (Because of the mass of the parts is more)


    ETA: I reread my post and it was confusing, basically alot of 3 gunners use low mass BCG, light springs and buffers to reduce recoil. But if your weapon is over gassed a h buffer will soften recoil.
    For softest recoil you want just enough gas to make all your parts run, but this may not be the most reliable weapon if it gets dirty and sluggish.
    Last edited by ryu_sekai; 01-02-11 at 18:26.

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    Using buffers to reduce felt recoil is not the way to pick buffer size, at least IMO. Using the ejection clock chart is a better way to pick the right buffer.

    With that said, I have a C and an H buffer. I will pickup an H2 simply because I have read of a ton of guys with 11.5" uppers using an H2 to get it to run right since SBR's are a fairly fast running gun so you need to slow them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjacobs View Post
    Using buffers to reduce felt recoil is not the way to pick buffer size, at least IMO. Using the ejection clock chart is a better way to pick the right buffer.

    With that said, I have a C and an H buffer. I will pickup an H2 simply because I have read of a ton of guys with 11.5" uppers using an H2 to get it to run right since SBR's are a fairly fast running gun so you need to slow them down.
    The point of the buffer is not to "fix ejection pattern" the point is to slow down the cyclic rate on full autos or "fix" the gun if it is over gassed in some way. If it is really Over-gassed it will recoil more and will cause several types of malfunctions.

    Just because someone elses gun does something doesn't mean it will work for you, if your gun has a small gas port adding an H2 is not gonna make anything better. With all the buffer I tried on my 10.5 all brass were in the 3-5 o clock range, what will you do then? I simply picked the buffer that made the rifle run the smoothest.

    I agree on the recoil vs buffer on some Parts but if you have a rifle that runs perfectly and ejects 2 o'clock I would not mess with it. ( considering 3-4:30 is the "sweet spot") however If your weapon is not performing correctly, looking at ejection patterns can help in diagnosing the problem.
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    I am waiting on my paperwork to get back. While I'm waiting, I'm trying to decide on the rail. I want the 11 inch extreme rail for the 11.5. After looking at the pic's, I love how the setup looks. What limits would this combo make for using a can on the rifle?

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    Have you looked at the Samson Evolution rails? kinda like the Troy, but they specifically made a point to advertise to fit most cans inside the rail. I think they are a smidge lighter than the Troy as well.
    Last edited by jdub75; 01-20-11 at 23:43.

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