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Thread: Upgrade to H or H2 buffer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hals1 View Post
    OK. I searched for "which buffer" and the site told me it wouldn't use "which" as a search term and gave me everything with buffer in it. I then tried "which buffer for carbine" and got a blank page. Also tried the last just searching tech discussion. Same result. Searched for "buffer for midlength " and got 77 hits. Do you see how a question could be repeated again and again.
    All anyone needs is for someone who knows to cite the correct search term or URL to the thread. With a few sample working search phrases maybe we could learn the tricks. By the way, I do pretty good with Google normally
    A lot of the trouble, I think, is that thread titles aren't given enough thought and are often meaningless or non-descriptive. A lot of threads get high jacked, but contain useful information on the off topic. (Like this one.)
    I don't see any answer other than to just grin and bear it.
    My thoughts. It'd be easier to just answer the question. You waste more time telling people to search than just saying "h" or "h2" ext. Plus, the next time someone searches for this topic, this will come up with CLEAR answers instead of numerous useless threads with the question and no good answers. My $0.02
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    I have better luck with a regular Google search. Here is what I just typed in:

    which buffer for sbr m4carbine

    http://www.google.com/m/search?q=whi...ltoken=f561d1c

    The top six returns were for this site with one post from mid December. I add m4carbine in there and this sites usually has answers. There are truly some idiots in other sites who spout off info that is totally bogus. Some of the stuff on TOS is scary wrong g and it is stickied as Gospel. This place is such a relief . I am glad I came here first!
    Last edited by usmcvet; 01-02-11 at 18:55. Reason: top six not five
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    Quote Originally Posted by ummagawd View Post
    H3 on a 14.5" middy here...
    I think the best "which" buffer thread happened in the review of the BCM 14.5 middy thread. This is where I learned all about it for what I ordered.

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    I'm a moderator on another forum and even though we receive multiple questions on practically the same question we have decided, as a group of moderators, to give a general answer to the question and then reference the Search function for more detailed answers. I understand this forum is different because of the content and intent of it and really do appreciate the seriousness of the forum. Compared to all of the Moderators, Industry Professionals, SME's and many of the Senior Members I have nowhere near the knowledge or experience in this platform. There are times though that you get the feeling if you ask an even remotely dumb question you going to get your ass chewed.

    OK enough of that.

    To the OP there is a post that is fairly long and detailed about the various buffers. There are even videos showing the performance of those buffers. I believe it is in this section. It is a great discussion and display of the buffers. I ended up going with a H2 buffer for my 14.5 middy. The main reason for that is the with an H3 buffer ther seemed to be the possibility of poor functioning of failures to function depending upon the type of ammunition you were using. Basically giving myself a bit of a cushion when it comes to choosing whatever type of ammunition I wanted to shoot. Search for that thread and read all of it. It's more than worth the time it will take to read and see the videos.
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    I found this post in less than a minute using the Google search that I posted.

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showpost.p...9&postcount=10

    Quote Originally Posted by Shihan View Post
    I got this from Gene Swanson in a email.


    "I run H buffers in all of our rifles. From 10.5 up to the 16 inch. I also run a lot of full auto so the H buffer slows things down a bit."



    Gene Swanson

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    I have a 14.5" carbine that had the carbine buffer in it. It ran fine. Thought about going either H or H2 in it and decided to go the H2 route from some of the reading I did. It runs just like the carbine buffer, for me I can not really tell a difference. I have run quite a bit of PMC Bronze 55 gr through it.

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    Let me explain the whole buffer thing. There is no best answer or correct answer. For one thing the OP didn't specify what make and model AR he has. This can make a difference due to gas port size.

    In addition we don't know what ammo he is using. That will make a difference as well. My SBR which is an 11.5" will function with an H3 100%, but I also run it suppressed most of the time.

    So by researching the question and then explaining to us what configuration he has, we can better make a recommendation. Chances are that an H2 will be just fine. However, as Hmac stated in his post, you actually need to test it out and see. By researching the answer and other responses you can save money by not going through multiple type of buffers as well as the aggravation when the OP comes back and reports that his carbine is now malfunctioning.



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    I use the search function quite a bit, actually almost all of the time. But when I find a void or unclear area I ask a question. I think it takes more bandwith, cpu memory, whatever to slap someone on the nose. IF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THE ANSWER OR THE DIRECTION TO THE ANSWER then just guide the person in the direction. Throw in " I found this using "buffer weight" in the site search". How hard is that. Your potential sponsors lie in wait and they sit here reading post and usually find validity in donating by getting their answers. I have been online for nearly twenty years now and seen the effects of jerk posting destroy two great websites that were there to help people understand. If this is another hotrod, drag race, neighbor hood snob, better than you internet posterboard then you see the flock fall away and another site will rise where this one fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Let me explain the whole buffer thing. There is no best answer or correct answer. For one thing the OP didn't specify what make and model AR he has. This can make a difference due to gas port size.

    In addition we don't know what ammo he is using. That will make a difference as well. My SBR which is an 11.5" will function with an H3 100%, but I also run it suppressed most of the time.

    So by researching the question and then explaining to us what configuration he has, we can better make a recommendation. Chances are that an H2 will be just fine. However, as Hmac stated in his post, you actually need to test it out and see. By researching the answer and other responses you can save money by not going through multiple type of buffers as well as the aggravation when the OP comes back and reports that his carbine is now malfunctioning.
    For the range I shoot anything cheap but no steel case. Mostly American Eagle xm193 or federal value pack .223 since that's what
    I'm stockpiled on and I always find them cheap. For defense I use both Hornady 60gr TAP (.223) and 75gr TAP (5.56) and I've been meaning to try out some black hills mk 262. I will not be suppressing my rifle though.
    The rifle is a 16" Bushmaster with a bravo company bolt/bcg. Barrel will be changed to a BCM as well.
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    i have nothing but good to say about the spikes tactical st-t2 buffer i have one on my mrp 16 inch barrel and another in a 18 inch noveske i used to have a 14.5 cmmg and it worked find on that one to. the recoil is minimal to say the least

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