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    Quote Originally Posted by CQC.45 View Post

    2). How do you cultivate Warrior Mindset for yourself?
    A couple of years living in the inner city went a loooong way in this regard.

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    Sooo... why do you want to be a "warrior" again?

    Life's much better if you aren't. Speaking as a 47 year old who's known from my very earliest days of counsciousness that I was a warrior, frankly, it kind of sucks.

    Get used to never fitting in, anywhere you are, ESPECIALLY in the military, because the weak-ass phoney baloney "warrior" bullshit they practice there is just that, bullshit.

    If you are still playing some kind of war game by the time you grow up, you aren't a real warrior. Same thing with getting it out of a book. By and large, Marshall and Grossman's stuff is phoney made up bullshit as well.

    But, here's the deal. Being a warrior is way overvalued. Being well-trained is a much better deal. Every human being has the capability to do violence if they have to. (This is where Grossman is especially full of shit) The propensity towards violence is inborn, universal and is reactivated with very little training.

    Bottom line, if you do not crave war and victory, you are not a warrior. There are no warrior accountants who secretly do MMA or play paintball on the side. There ARE however, warriors who learn accounting to help become victorious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    Sooo... why do you want to be a "warrior" again?

    Life's much better if you aren't. Speaking as a 47 year old who's known from my very earliest days of counsciousness that I was a warrior, frankly, it kind of sucks.

    Get used to never fitting in, anywhere you are, ESPECIALLY in the military, because the weak-ass phoney baloney "warrior" bullshit they practice there is just that, bullshit.
    If you are still playing some kind of war game by the time you grow up, you aren't a real warrior. Same thing with getting it out of a book. By and large, Marshall and Grossman's stuff is phoney made up bullshit as well.

    But, here's the deal. Being a warrior is way overvalued. Being well-trained is a much better deal. Every human being has the capability to do violence if they have to. (This is where Grossman is especially full of shit) The propensity towards violence is inborn, universal and is reactivated with very little training.

    Bottom line, if you do not crave war and victory, you are not a warrior. There are no warrior accountants who secretly do MMA or play paintball on the side. There ARE however, warriors who learn accounting to help become victorious.
    Really? I gotta here this, cause personally the only people I fit in with are others who are like me and have seen the same stuff I have. Another reason I love places like M4C because alot of you share my same opinions, beliefs and alot of you are prior military. I may not crave war, but frankly I'd rather be deployed doing my job as an infantry soldier then anything thing else... who knows maybe I'm just full of it and that infantrymans creed is a joke.

    I am the Infantry.
    I am my country's strength in war,
    her deterrent in peace.
    I am the heart of the fight-
    wherever, whenever.
    I carry America's faith and honor
    against her enemies.
    I am the Queen of Battle.

    I am what my country expects me to be-
    the best trained soldier in the world.
    In the race for victory,
    I am swift, determined, and courageous,
    armed with a fierce will to win.

    Never will I fail my country's trust.
    Always I fight on-
    through the foe,
    to the objective,
    to triumph over all.
    If necessary, I fight to my death.

    By my steadfast courage,
    I have won 200 years of freedom.
    I yield not-
    to weakness,
    to hunger,
    to cowardice,
    to fatigue,
    to superior odds,
    for I am mentally tough,physically strong,
    and morally straight.

    I forsake not-
    my country,
    my mission,
    my comrades,
    my sacred duty.

    I am relentless.
    I am always there,
    now and forever.

    I AM THE INFANTRY!
    FOLLOW ME!
    Last edited by DDgunslinger; 01-18-11 at 22:37.
    I'm just a peckerwood who lives in the hills with too many guns - Mark Wahlberg "Shooter"

    Once you are able to kill mentally, the physical part will be easy. The difficult part... is learning how to turn it off. - Tommy Lee Jones "The Hunted"

    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. - George Orwell

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    If you want warrior mindset, I think that creed I posted above pretty much covers it.
    I'm just a peckerwood who lives in the hills with too many guns - Mark Wahlberg "Shooter"

    Once you are able to kill mentally, the physical part will be easy. The difficult part... is learning how to turn it off. - Tommy Lee Jones "The Hunted"

    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. - George Orwell

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    This is a very interesting topic. I'm not an accountant, but my job has me "suited up" every day. After hours, I train hard and have all my life. Currently, I'm studying Krav Maga. Point is, stereotyping "who" can have a warrior mindset is to underestimate your opponent.

    I'm not military, but am consumed with weapons and weapons training. I've moved into 3gun competition and got hooked on the adrenaline I felt when the first buzzer rang. Being able to perform when under pressure is a trait all warriors must have. I'm not saying I have it, but look to push myself to the point to find out. The idea of flipping the switch, moving into the "zone" all grab at having the wherewithal to perform when you have to. Sparring, boxing or any competitive event that test your mettle should definitely hone your warrior mindset.

    I do not believe that being a warrior is measured by how much you fight or faught growing up. The mindset is not reserved just for those whom have "served". It can be found in an office as easily as on the street or a battle field. A true warrior has honor and valor. A warrior defends the weak and stands against all that is bad in this world. A true warrior knows fear, but has control over his emotions to perform his duties. I fear many people mistake a warrior's mindset with a willingness to take ones life. A braver man would save it.

    I believe what you are getting at correlates to courage. One of my favorite sayings is "courage is being afraid, but going anyway". Here is a great link to quotes on courage. I think it's very relative to this discussion.

    http://www.quotegarden.com/courage.html

    Just my thoughts, FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDgunslinger View Post
    Really? I gotta here this, cause personally the only people I fit in with are others who are like me and have seen the same stuff I have. Another reason I love places like M4C because alot of you share my same opinions, beliefs and alot of you are prior military. I may not crave war, but frankly I'd rather be deployed doing my job as an infantry soldier then anything thing else... who knows maybe I'm just full of it and that infantrymans creed is a joke.

    I am the Infantry.
    I am my country's strength in war,
    her deterrent in peace.
    I am the heart of the fight-
    wherever, whenever.
    I carry America's faith and honor
    against her enemies.
    I am the Queen of Battle.

    I am what my country expects me to be-
    the best trained soldier in the world.
    In the race for victory,
    I am swift, determined, and courageous,
    armed with a fierce will to win.

    Never will I fail my country's trust.
    Always I fight on-
    through the foe,
    to the objective,
    to triumph over all.
    If necessary, I fight to my death.

    By my steadfast courage,
    I have won 200 years of freedom.
    I yield not-
    to weakness,
    to hunger,
    to cowardice,
    to fatigue,
    to superior odds,
    for I am mentally tough,physically strong,
    and morally straight.

    I forsake not-
    my country,
    my mission,
    my comrades,
    my sacred duty.

    I am relentless.
    I am always there,
    now and forever.

    I AM THE INFANTRY!
    FOLLOW ME!
    Not that I really wanted to go there, but soldier does not necessarily equal warrior. In fact, most often it is quite the opposite.

    Most often, soldier equals bureaucrat; sometimes welfare recipient in a green suit. And frankly, in a full up fight, soldiers are better. Which plays to my point about training.

    However... you'll pry find "real" warriors most often in pointy-end units like infantry or whatnot. And, btw, warriors don't need creeds and cool sayings and shit.

    To the OP: I don't get why we need to have "warrior" mindset, other than as a useless buzzword. Train and trust that you'll use your training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amac View Post
    This is a very interesting topic. I'm not an accountant, but my job has me "suited up" every day. After hours, I train hard and have all my life. Currently, I'm studying Krav Maga. Point is, stereotyping "who" can have a warrior mindset is to underestimate your opponent.

    I'm not military, but am consumed with weapons and weapons training. I've moved into 3gun competition and got hooked on the adrenaline I felt when the first buzzer rang. Being able to perform when under pressure is a trait all warriors must have. I'm not saying I have it, but look to push myself to the point to find out. The idea of flipping the switch, moving into the "zone" all grab at having the wherewithal to perform when you have to. Sparring, boxing or any competitive event that test your mettle should definitely hone your warrior mindset.

    I do not believe that being a warrior is measured by how much you fight or faught growing up. The mindset is not reserved just for those whom have "served". It can be found in an office as easily as on the street or a battle field. A true warrior has honor and valor. A warrior defends the weak and stands against all that is bad in this world. A true warrior knows fear, but has control over his emotions to perform his duties. I fear many people mistake a warrior's mindset with a willingness to take ones life. A braver man would save it.

    I believe what you are getting at correlates to courage. One of my favorite sayings is "courage is being afraid, but going anyway". Here is a great link to quotes on courage. I think it's very relative to this discussion.

    http://www.quotegarden.com/courage.html

    Just my thoughts, FWIW.
    Frankly, if you do not go to war, you are just hijacking the word.

    Please, this is not the Special ****ing Olympics. Not everyone gets a prize, just because they want to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    Frankly, if you do not go to war, you are just hijacking the word.

    Please, this is not the Special ****ing Olympics. Not everyone gets a prize, just because they want to play.
    LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

    SO true!!!! How can you call yourself a warrior if you've never been to war or participated in a conflict as a combatant like LEO's?? You might think you have the mindset, but until the bullets, bombs, rockets, fists,etc... start flying your way, you don't know how you will react, so you can't be a warrior. You have to be involved in conflict in some fashion or another.
    Training and playing with guns and tools of the trade is great but does not make you a warrior. And I know a lot of the civilians will probably dissagree with this view, and it's no surprise. I guess it's your only defense, you have no other argument. With that said, you might have a warrior mindset and that's great, but your not a warrior until you've been tested and proven in a constant conflict, war, even the streets as a LEO. They can be warriors, they've been tested, it's not hypothetical and they don't play fight either.

    Sitting behind your computer all dressed in black fantasizing about being in great battles killing all the enemy, saving your team from almost sure annihilation and emerging from the dust filled battle field with a bloody cheek while typing away at your keyboard does not make you anything. Killing all the bad guys with your Xbox doesn't make you one either. Hence the term internet commando, or armchair warrior etc.... Included in that list is going to the range with your jungle boots on and pants bloused, crispy clean brand new vest and your thigh rig.

    You really want to find out if you're a warrior, get away from your computer and TALKING about it, join the military or Police, train, prepare and go to war or patrol the streets of your city. If you can't do that then I'm sorry, you will never really know if you're a warrior. It's just how it works. And even if one has been to all this crap etc... it doesn't necessarily make one a warrior either.

    R.
    Last edited by rickp; 01-19-11 at 12:23.
    "In the end, it is not about the hardware, it's about the "software". Amateurs talk about hardware (equipment), professionals talk about software (training and mental readiness)" Lt. Col. Dave Grossman. On Combat

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    Sooo... why do you want to be a "warrior" again?

    Life's much better if you aren't. Speaking as a 47 year old who's known from my very earliest days of counsciousness that I was a warrior, frankly, it kind of sucks.

    Get used to never fitting in, anywhere you are, ESPECIALLY in the military, because the weak-ass phoney baloney "warrior" bullshit they practice there is just that, bullshit.

    If you are still playing some kind of war game by the time you grow up, you aren't a real warrior. Same thing with getting it out of a book. By and large, Marshall and Grossman's stuff is phoney made up bullshit as well.

    But, here's the deal. Being a warrior is way overvalued. Being well-trained is a much better deal. Every human being has the capability to do violence if they have to. (This is where Grossman is especially full of shit) The propensity towards violence is inborn, universal and is reactivated with very little training.

    Bottom line, if you do not crave war and victory, you are not a warrior. There are no warrior accountants who secretly do MMA or play paintball on the side. There ARE however, warriors who learn accounting to help become victorious.
    This is probablly the best post of this thread, hands down. Well put, Sir,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    Get used to never fitting in, anywhere you are, ESPECIALLY in the military, because the weak-ass phoney baloney "warrior" bullshit they practice there is just that, bullshit.
    Ladies and Gentlemen, the Airman's Creed;

    I am an American Airman.
    I am a Warrior.
    I have answered my nation's call.

    I am an American Airman.
    My mission is to fly, fight, and win.
    I am faithful to a proud heritage,
    a tradition of honor,
    and a legacy of valor.

    I am an American Airman,
    Guardian of freedom and justice,
    My nation's sword and shield,
    Its sentry and avenger.
    I defend my country with my life.

    I am an American Airman:
    Wingman, Leader, Warrior.
    I will never leave an Airman behind.
    I will never falter,
    and I will not fail.

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