Old Eyes and Zeroing Irons= Frustration

[LSP972]

Submariner,

If it's not too much trouble can you post a pic of both?

That target is/was called a "Canadian bull". I have no idea why it was called that, but it was what we zeroed on in Army Basic in the early 70s. It was intended to be used at 25 meters (1000 inches) to get an approximate battlesight zero when a proper field fire range wasn't available.

Perhaps a Google search will turn it up.

I'm having the same difficulty as the OP; while I can still shoot MOT (Minute of Thug) at 100 yards and in with irons, the thrill (precision), as they say, is gone.

Sigh... time for a red dot. I'm in the process of getting those for my two target pistols.

Getting old sucks; truly.

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[Pat_Rogers]

Freddie- you are dead nuts correct. Regardless of your vision, the red dot sight should always be a primary sight for carbines (there is a time and place for telescopes).
I look at my Aimpoints as a primary sighting system. The irons are like a reserve parachute or spare tire, and nothing more.
The red dot works so much better, not only up close, but at mid range, low light CQB and so forth.

We need to get over the romance of aligning sights and get to the business of shooting smelly bearded men in the face more efficiently.

[Shihan]

We need to get over the romance of aligning sights and get to the business of shooting smelly bearded men in the face more efficiently.

One of the all time greatest quotes ever!

[Pat_Rogers]

(Blush)= why, thank you...

[Rmplstlskn]

...get to the business of shooting smelly bearded men in the face more efficiently.

Redirect fire! I'm bearded........... and sometimes smell on a hot summer day (or so my wife tells me...)

Rmpl

[KDG]

We need to get over the romance of aligning sights and get to the business of shooting smelly bearded men in the face more efficiently.

Awesome quote!

[Nathan_Bell]

We need to get over the romance of aligning sights and get to the business of shooting smelly bearded men in the face more efficiently.

Pat, if it is ok with you can I use this as my new sigline here on M4C?

[Sidewinder6]

Redirect fire! I'm bearded........... and sometimes smell on a hot summer day (or so my wife tells me...)

Rmpl

Yeah, BUT Ill bet your towel stays in the bathroom when your done rather than wearing it all day.

Pat, I was laughing out loud in my office when I read that comment. Hamdu Allah.

[Pat_Rogers]

Pat, if it is ok with you can I use this as my new sigline here on M4C?

Sure- just give me credit for it.

[Hersh]

We need to get over the romance of aligning sights and get to the business of shooting smelly bearded men in the face more efficiently.

Best advice I've heard in a long time!