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Thread: H buffer or Spikes ST-T2 on a 14.5" middy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Don't take my word for it. Markm and I did quite a bit of testing with the BCM middy last summer (IIRC) and we tried all of the buffers from standard to H3.

    There is very little doubt in my mind that if you get an H2 it will work with most ammo. We tried M855, Federal M193, Hornady TAP and a few others (you can search for that thread).

    If it doesn't work then I'll buy the damn buffer back from you.
    Ok, well since you seem to know what you're talking about, I'll go ahead and get the H2 buffer and see how it works. Thanks for all the input!!!

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    Read this.

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=56626

    Quote Originally Posted by USNsheepdog View Post
    Ok, well since you seem to know what you're talking about, I'll go ahead and get the H2 buffer and see how it works. Thanks for all the input!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    That's a very informative thread. The upper he's got is the very same upper I'm ordering, only mine will have a pinned A2 flash hider.

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    That's the one we tested.

    Quote Originally Posted by USNsheepdog View Post
    That's a very informative thread. The upper he's got is the very same upper I'm ordering, only mine will have a pinned A2 flash hider.



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    Didn't Pat Rogers' "Filthy 14" use an H buffer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TehLlama View Post
    I was excited about trying my ST-2. Went back to an H2 on that rifle, but ST2 is still quite happy on my SPR.
    I thought that the DDM4s came with the unmarked ST-T2 buffers. I believe my black, but unmarked buffer has the sound of "powder" instead of weights in it. The recoil impulse of that gun w/ buffer is much sharper than the gun/H1 combo in another rifle. I'm going to order a H3 and make two H2s, one for each gun. Is there any reason to go with the ST-T2?

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    When I was checking out buffers and wanted to try different ones, I simply bought an H3. Between the H3 and the standard carbine buffer, you have every possibly combination of buffers available. Just mix and match until you find the one that works best with your rifle. I've done it this way on all 3 of my AR's.

    1. Standard buffer has 3 steel weights in it.
    2. H3 buffer has 3 tungsten weights in it.
    3. H2 has 2 tungsten and 1 steel (Swap 1 tungsten with a steel from the original carbine buffer)
    4. H (H1) has 1 tungsten and 2 steel. (Swap 2 tungsten with 2 steel from the original buffer).

    I'm probably going to try out the ST-T2, only because it sounds intriguing. I've read a lot of positive posts on it. However; I've also heard some people say that an H2 is "Better". Not sure how they qualify "Better". Such a subjective word. I would think that a loose granular weight would shift more cleanly than 3 individual weights separated. Oh well. One of these days I'll buy one and try it. Currently; I like the H2. It's much better than the standard carbine buffer. But each person is different. Plus the ammo you shoot becomes a factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Don't take my word for it. Markm and I did quite a bit of testing with the BCM middy last summer (IIRC) and we tried all of the buffers from standard to H3.

    There is very little doubt in my mind that if you get an H2 it will work with most ammo. We tried M855, Federal M193, Hornady TAP and a few others (you can search for that thread).

    If it doesn't work then I'll buy the damn buffer back from you.
    Did you test any .223 pressure ammo or only 5.56? Did the H2 work for that as well? Thanks.

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    I am pretty sure that the 55gr. TAP ammo we used was .223 according to the box and product number. 9754EL.

    Quote Originally Posted by CQC.45 View Post
    Did you test any .223 pressure ammo or only 5.56? Did the H2 work for that as well? Thanks.



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    USNSheepdog,

    I bought a Bravo H2 to experiment with and wound up going back to an H. It has a small nick on it where it went past the buffer retainer, otherwise it's pristine. If you're interested shoot me a PM and we can work something out.

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