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    Phantom Cameras, which shoot that 1000fps, and higher, rent for $2500/day.

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    I just bought a Casio EX-FH100 just because of the wide zoom and overall functionality. The High Speed video was just a bonus. The bolt bounce videos look like they could have been taken by this camera, however with detailed setup and lighting. The FH100 also has a great "Continuous Shot" mode for superfast "bursts" of pictures that helps with kids, sports, and other fast movement. I see this as finally using some of the true capabilities of the digital CCD.

    I also have a Canon 40D DSLR as well and it can only take like 5 shots a second, and even if it had a multi shot burst mode (which I still doubt is fast enough) timing it to shoot bolt bounce would be pretty hard.

    For only like $300 this is a great camera with a lot of capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1967 View Post
    Phantom Cameras, which shoot that 1000fps, and higher, rent for $2500/day.
    Sounds expensive, till you think that at 1000fps that is 42 times more frames than a normal camera, so the effective price is $59.50 per day.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3JfGw8YfeQ

    224 x 64 (1000 fps), 224 x 168 (420 fps), 448 x 336 (240 fps), 640 x 480 (120 fps), 448 x 336 (30-240 fps), 640 x 480 (30-120 fps), 720p (30 fps)

    Maybe I'll wait a generation and hope the resolution doubles at least in the next camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5pins View Post
    There are a lot of videos on you tube showing what a vid would look like at 1000fps. It looks like it will work but the resolution gets worse as the FPS goes up. This one will give an idea of what it would look like.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3JfGw8YfeQ
    That's exactly the one I was thinking of.

    This review keeps scaring me away from the camera as it sounds like it's a mediocre camera outside of the high speed thing.
    http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-came...contentBody;1r

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1967 View Post
    Phantom Cameras, which shoot that 1000fps, and higher, rent for $2500/day.
    And they're really fun until you have a director that wants to roll it on everything and you have to find a place to save the ridiculous amount of data it captures. Now there was a fun rookie mistake.
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    I took some quick video of a bolt dropping from lock with my FH100 camera at 1000fps. The aspect is off and the quality is probably 20% poorer than straight from the camera because I have no idea how to use my editing software. Also, my lighting was crap and probably my close in focus as well. Regardless, you can easily see the bolt bounce.
    http://s923.photobucket.com/albums/a...BounceNTSC.mp4

    Also, here is a minimally compressed (18) JPG taken with the same lighting just to show the macro capability of the camera.
    http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a...ples/Nov16.jpg

    I bought the FH100 based on this review as a wide zoom with fast operation and good quality. I had no idea about the high speed capabilities at first. I would trust a digital camera review site over CNET any day of the week
    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q210grouptravelzoom/

    Enjoy!

    Dennis.
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    Here is some footage of a camera that shoots 1 million frames per second recording bullets impacts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDoQwIAaXg
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    I looked for the website for the camera in my last post.
    http://www.kurzzeit.com/kameras.htm
    1 Million FPS, but it can only store up to 100 frames at a time. That would still be a pain to get perfect timing.

    Here's the specs from the site
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    High-Speed Video Camera HyperVision HPV-1
    The Shimadzu HPV-1 High Speed camera offers up to one million frames per second
    with a 100 frames memory.

    It maintains excellent 312 x 260-pixel resolution at all recording speeds
    to permit detailed analysis of high-speed phenomena.

    Dedicated software in the control unit allows recording to start immediately
    after performing a few simple settings. Recorded images can be saved in general
    image formats such as AVI or BMP.


    Basic specifications:
    - Resolution 312 (horizontal) x 260 (vertical) pixels
    - Frame storage 100 frames
    - Lens mount Nikon F mount
    - Color, gradations Monochrome, 10 bits
    - Recording speed 30 fps to 1,000,000 fps
    - External trigger input TTL (positive/negative), switch closure
    - Trigger mode Set trigger point at any desired frame
    - Recording format 10-bit dedicated format, BMP, TIFF, AVI
    -AJ

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    i know this is nowhere near the fps your talking about but i have a Flip ultra that records 720p @ 60fps. Now when recording my BCG on an over gassed carbine gas barrel and standard carbine buffer the cycle was caught in 5 frames starting when the bolt first moved and stopping when the bolt closed and re-chambered. Thats def. not enough to catch bolt bounce BUT believe it or not i did. I just recorded around 20 cycles and u just have to get lucky with the camera timing which you will. If u just want something to check if bolt bounce is present then the flip ultra will work but if u actually want to see the full motion of the bolt bounce u need 1000fps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    I bought the FH100 based on this review as a wide zoom with fast operation and good quality. I had no idea about the high speed capabilities at first. I would trust a digital camera review site over CNET any day of the week
    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q210grouptravelzoom/
    For some specific reason, or simply because you used them as your basis for purchase and they validated what you wanted to hear?

    Not picking on you, just being specific. We obviously see this all the time here with "they told me on ar15.com it was good" kind of posts.

    ETA:
    I *want* to like this camera, so I'm really looking for good credible reviews and something that pokes holes in the numerous bad reviews I've found.
    Last edited by rob_s; 01-12-11 at 07:09.

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