Peter King, Boxer, McCarthy & Lautenberg GUN CONTROL...UPDATED 3rd time..

**FromMyColdDeadHand** · 01-14-11, 09:51

I'm just trying to wrap my head around why King would do this. He is usually a pretty stand-up guy. I almost wonder if his wife is freaking out and is making him suggest this. Any rationale person knows that this is a BS way to protect people and the lack of any real CCW in NY would make him insensative to the reality in the states where their is CCW.

Someone should ask King if he wants to make one of the heros that held down the crazy till police arrived a felon. One of the guys was an armed CCW carrier.

**LHS** · 01-14-11, 10:13

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

Someone should ask King if he wants to make one of the heros that held down the crazy till police arrived a felon. One of the guys was an armed CCW carrier.

Even that's coming under fire. This idiot says it's a miracle that Zamudio (the CCW guy who helped subdue the shooter) didn't shoot the wrong person. The article is full of misconceptions (Oh no, he took the SAFETY off! Even though he didn't even clear leather...) and other blathering. All in all Zamudio was very smart about how he handled the situation. He knew that drawing the weapon was not the correct choice for the situation, and he left it in the holster. But some people just don't know what they don't know, and this moron Saletan is one of them.

http://www.slate.com/id/2280794/

**Belmont31R** · 01-14-11, 11:30

Originally Posted by LHS

Even that's coming under fire. This idiot says it's a miracle that Zamudio (the CCW guy who helped subdue the shooter) didn't shoot the wrong person. The article is full of misconceptions (Oh no, he took the SAFETY off! Even though he didn't even clear leather...) and other blathering. All in all Zamudio was very smart about how he handled the situation. He knew that drawing the weapon was not the correct choice for the situation, and he left it in the holster. But some people just don't know what they don't know, and this moron Saletan is one of them.

http://www.slate.com/id/2280794/

Concealed carry is not for us regular peons.

**FromMyColdDeadHand** · 01-14-11, 13:05

These grand "Reservoir Dogs" or "True Romance" where everyone shoots each other just don't happen. If you actually got to that kind of CCW density, bad guys wouldn't use guns anymore because they would be guaranteed of getting shot by someone.

King's main arguement that I've seen him put out is that security people would be able to use their ninja skills and know who is carrying and intercept them and ask if they have a gun.

From a real world standpoint, what really changes? How does PC change for them to search someone? If they see someone with glazed eyes and are fidgiting in their pockets, would this new law change how they approach and interact with the person?

**d90king** · 01-14-11, 13:19

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

These grand "Reservoir Dogs" or "True Romance" where everyone shoots each other just don't happen. If you actually got to that kind of CCW density, bad guys wouldn't use guns anymore because they would be guaranteed of getting shot by someone.

King's main arguement that I've seen him put out is that security people would be able to use their ninja skills and know who is carrying and intercept them and ask if they have a gun.

From a real world standpoint, what really changes? How does PC change for them to search someone? If they see someone with glazed eyes and are fidgiting in their pockets, would this new law change how they approach and interact with the person?

Its my understanding that hey already have Suburbans that are filled with electronics that can tell them if someone has a firearm on their person... However that level of security has always been reserved for POTUS etc and I don't think they care much about PC...

In all honesty I have always wondered about the lack of security that our congress members have including very high ranking senators etc.... They generally have NONE at all during their private every day lives. I am surprised that it has never been exploited in the past by those who wish to do us harm as a nation...

**FromMyColdDeadHand** · 01-14-11, 13:48

I think the only true security they have, not to sound callous, is that they are highly replaceable. Sure we don't want to loose any of them but someone else fills in for them, probably with the same vision. What effect does that really have? I think that is why they haven't been that targeted in the past, or now- it really isn't a viable strategy. You can't whack your way into getting congress to change direction. That and the fact that no single person in congress is that much more important than the other, all their votes count for the same amount, so their power is pretty diffuse.