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    Quote Originally Posted by cj5_dude View Post
    If by "mostly new components" you mean just a barrel and gas tube then ok. There's a lot of parts in an upper and changing two is not that bad, though you need some specific knowledge/tools.
    That's the minimum. Depending on how the upper is set up, you could need new handguards or rails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amac View Post
    It seems as though everyone (lots of people) are moving towards mid length rifles, what benefit do carbine length serve? What's their best application?

    I've got a 16" carbine, just ordered a middy and now am considering converting my carbine. Should I leave it as is? Thanks
    Convert, no, not worth it. Today though, if buying new, it is hard to not get a mid length. Gas ports and locations are far from rocket science and most companies have it figured out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivefivesix View Post
    its funny, i know a few people in my area that went out and bought middies after the first few posts were made and the rage began. and they have no clue why they bought them. bandwagon maybe
    I'm sorta "that guy", in that I've never shot or handled a middie.. but I knew I wanted to pickup a 2nd AR, and I knew I wanted something very different than the 6940 I bought as my first AR.

    All of my buddies already had middies, so I decided to jump on the train. While jumping on the middy train though, I tried to do it right this (or atleast better). 14.5" barrel (I've read the 14.5" barrel will do anything a 16" would), LW profile (lighter & supposedly better balance vs. Gov). 12" RIS-II rail (can get my support hand much further out than the short rail on my 6940). Final mods will be a GF charging handle & pinned Battle Comp.

    Im still waiting on the build from Smartgunner, should be here in about a month or so. But Im expecting it to look, handle, shoot, recoil and even sound much differently than my stock 6940. Im pretty excited to see the difference and think it makes for a great 2nd rifle! Might even SBR the lower.
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    You mentioned that your Carbine has a MOE handguard, which IMO weighs almost nothing. It is nearly all plastic and short (approx. 7 inches). On the other hand you have a middy with a VTAC extreme (probably 11 inches) and made of aluminum. So there is a huge wieght difference there. Spend a few bucks on the MOE middy and see if that makes a difference. But I am not sure as to how much effort it would be to do that swap.

    But I think it is not the gas system that is causing the muzzle heaviness. It is likely the different handguards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Bert View Post
    But I think it is not the gas system that is causing the muzzle heaviness. It is likely the different handguards.

    The gas tube length merely dictates what rails you can and cant use. What you choose beyond that is going to dictate the feel.

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    My personal opinion is 14.5" and less barrels are carbine length, 16" are midlength and 20" are rifle.

    My 6920 has a genuine Colt M4 barrel and a pinned Blackout on it, my 16" midlength is a BCM BFH lightweight and my rifles are all retro 20" barrel 603 and 604 clones, plus an SP1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilotguyo540 View Post
    I wish I had a scale. My current config calcs in at about 8 pounds 7 oz before my monster light. That's with a standard M4 stock.

    I knew the advantages of a middy before I bought mine. I will reconfigure my set up and see if that helps. I believe a lot of the problem is in having a more forward CG. If that wad of cash turns into an exercise in futility I will buy the LW noveske I have always wanted.
    From your poll thread it's the giant flashlight you have mounted on it (with no comparable light on the carbine). If both rifles had that light on them, they'd be equal (or with a nod towards the middy). My 16" LW middy is handier than my wife's 6920 (16" carbine) because of the barrel profile and the fact that I grip it further on the barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fivefivesix View Post
    its funny, i know a few people in my area that went out and bought middies after the first few posts were made and the rage began. and they have no clue why they bought them. bandwagon maybe
    I'll admit I was that guy. I just got it last spring so I wasn't quite keepin up with the jones'. I needed (subjective) a second and picked up the middy to see what it was all about. With the LW profile and just a DD rear sight it's nice and light. Most likely that's why I don't notice it shooting any softer. Just a phantom on the end of it for now. It will be my training gun this year. It'll get a small light and probably an H1, maybe a Sparc depending on Vortex's warranty, and that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orionz06 View Post
    The gas tube length merely dictates what rails you can and cant use. What you choose beyond that is going to dictate the feel.
    I think you miss understood what I was trying to say. It is not that it is simply a middy in and of itself. I am saying that he is comparing a Carbine with a plastic handguard to a middy with a metal one. Of course the middy is going to be more front heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Bert View Post
    I think you miss understood what I was trying to say. It is not that it is simply a middy in and of itself. I am saying that he is comparing a Carbine with a plastic handguard to a middy with a metal one. Of course the middy is going to be more front heavy.
    I am aware. Many things seem to have been lost throughout the conversation.


    I think it all got figured out though. Too much thought is placed on the gas tube length though.

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