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Thread: The Colt SCW, and HK 416C stock systems. Questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devildog0311 View Post
    Back to the question that I am concerned about, will a civilian model of either the Hk 416, or 416c be released? I happen to like HK
    Civilian HK416 is released (MR223 worldwide, MR556 for US). I doubt that 416C will be released. HK is bound by all those German law restrictions that do not allow "weapons of war" to be made for civilian market and BKA (German Criminal Police) will never accept 416C derivate as "sporting or hunting weapon". And now, with German press, lefty politicians and prosecutor office all over HK for selling firearms to Mexican Police it's even less possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glen View Post
    Any info on this please?

    I think he is talking about these. IIRC the receiver extension is an 1.5 inch shorter that your standard Milspec RE.

    http://www.coltcanada.com/c8-page.htm

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    Which makes no sense because they have the manufacturing capacity here in the U.S. If the weapon are made in the U.S I fail to see how German Kriegswaffen laws would apply.

    Quote Originally Posted by montrala View Post
    Civilian HK416 is released (MR223 worldwide, MR556 for US). I doubt that 416C will be released. HK is bound by all those German law restrictions that do not allow "weapons of war" to be made for civilian market and BKA (German Criminal Police) will never accept 416C derivate as "sporting or hunting weapon". And now, with German press, lefty politicians and prosecutor office all over HK for selling firearms to Mexican Police it's even less possible.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Which makes no sense because they have the manufacturing capacity here in the U.S. If the weapon are made in the U.S I fail to see how German Kriegswaffen laws would apply.
    Yes, but German press and lefty politicians ("Green Party") are monitoring HK worldwide to attack it locally. Even SL-8 in Georgia soldiers hands made quite a black-PR stir against HK. That is why I stated that "I doubt". No that "it is impossible". Huge market success of MR556A1 would make it happen by convincing HK to invest more in US civilian market... but with community attitude toward MR556A1 (and HK generally) it this "huge success" seem unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    Which parts are modified?
    It's not hard to reduce the length about 1.5". After that you need to go to a special spring and there isn't room for a real buffer.

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    For some reason I thought the new Colt was going to be a piston. Not that Im wanting a piston just what I had heard.
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    Yeah, I read about it on the Firearm Blog.

    ''The 416 killer'' is what I heard about it. They called it the Colt 1020 IIRC.
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    When new sport car is announced as "Porsche killer", that means this new stuff is benchmarked with something perceived as state of the art.

    Calling new Colt as "416 killer" is nothing more than... tribute to 416

    Like it or not... 416 is benchmark for assault rifle. Other one are just "worse than", "same as" or "better than" 416.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montrala View Post
    When new sport car is announced as "Porsche killer", that means this new stuff is benchmarked with something perceived as state of the art.

    Calling new Colt as "416 killer" is nothing more than... tribute to 416

    Like it or not... 416 is benchmark for assault rifle. Other one are just "worse than", "same as" or "better than" 416.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano5326 View Post
    You will never see a 416c "commercially" if you mean civilian sales. This type stock sucked on mp-5's w/o recoil, with 5.56 bleh. The guts are radically different than a 416.

    The colt is a more intuitive approach but I no likey either.nI thought the Colt Canada short stock from yrs ago was a better approach.

    There is no comparable PDW to the KAC one. knock, knock
    The only bad thing is it isn't 5.56 which will be the biggest hurdle to overcome...

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