Refuse to send your kids to school in the ghetto = jail time.

[SteyrAUG]

Now, I am all for the ending of the Department of Education and Federal education subsidies to states! I think every American should be paying about 2-3x the property tax they currently pay.

Actually I shouldn't have to pay any of that nonsense because I'm not sending any kids to school. The more kids a person has, the more they should pay for their education. And if I don't have any kids I shouldn't have to pay a dime.

[armakraut]

It's no coincidence that every time there is a state or federal school power grab, the grades go down. Most kids who graduate from a university couldn't pass a pre-1950's grade school exam.

Education needs to be kicked back to the counties and cities.

[stifled]

Actually I shouldn't have to pay any of that nonsense because I'm not sending any kids to school. The more kids a person has, the more they should pay for their education. And if I don't have any kids I shouldn't have to pay a dime.

Sorry, public education is one thing that I never understood the libertarian stance on. Education is as important as freedom of speech and guns for ensuring individuals' freedom. In fact I think public education needs to go a step further, into higher education.

[SteyrAUG]

Sorry, public education is one thing that I never understood the libertarian stance on. Education is as important as freedom of speech and guns for ensuring individuals' freedom. In fact I think public education needs to go a step further, into higher education.

I'm reading my copy of the Constitution and I'm just not seeing anything about a guaranteed right to tax payer funded education. Now I agree that education is very important and probably comes right after food, clothing and shelter. But you will notice that you pay for those more important things yourself. So each person should simply pay for their own childs education. And just like it is expensive to feed 8 kids out of your own pocket, it might be expensive to educate them as well.

But the most important point is I shouldn't have to pay to educate somebodies 8 kids, I should only have to pay for my own. And if you can't afford it...don't have them.

[RancidSumo]

This thread makes me really glad I grew up in Wyoming where there is usually only one school per town (and then usually an alternative school). The vast majority of them are good schools too with the exception of Rock Springs, WY .

[chadbag]

Sorry, public education is one thing that I never understood the libertarian stance on. Education is as important as freedom of speech and guns for ensuring individuals' freedom. In fact I think public education needs to go a step further, into higher education.

The more the "public" (read "state") gets into education, the worse it is. Education is vitally important. That is one big reason to keep the government out of it.

And I agree with SteyrAUG -- no where do I see the public being allowed into education by our Constitution.

And once you realize where the notion of public education comes from (Prussia) you realize why the left likes it. You get a lot of worker drones who are brainwashed into supporting the state as supreme.

[armakraut]

Not that anybody cares, but if it isn't a federal responsibility, and it isn't prohibited, then it is left to the states or the people.

[Armati]

Yep, and as such it should be fully funded by the 'individual states and The People themselves.' As should most everything else that is currently federally funded.

[stifled]

The more the "public" (read "state") gets into education, the worse it is. Education is vitally important. That is one big reason to keep the government out of it.

And I agree with SteyrAUG -- no where do I see the public being allowed into education by our Constitution.

And once you realize where the notion of public education comes from (Prussia) you realize why the left likes it. You get a lot of worker drones who are brainwashed into supporting the state as supreme.

Most people who use this argument balk when you start talking about legalizing drugs. Your stance?

Seriously, the constitution is a good basis, but was not intended to be the beginning and end of law and role of government.

[chadbag]

Most people who use this argument balk when you start talking about legalizing drugs. Your stance?

You must be new around here.

While drugs are dumb and stupid, I am 100% for legalization.

(And no, I have never used illegal drugs or even alcohol in my life and balked even at pain killer narcotics when I had ankle surgery, though I gave in and used them minimally as needed)

Seriously, the constitution is a good basis, but was not intended to be the beginning and end of law and role of government.

What? The Constitution is the guiding law of the land. If a law is not in harmony with the Constitution, out it goes.