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Thread: Govt should enforce Obamacare even though it has been ruled unconstitutional

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    Unemployment will be solved when Congress passes a law mandating that unemployed people hire themselves.

    Homelessness will be solved when Congress passes a law mandating that homeless people buy houses.

    And I suppose crime will be solved when Congress passes a law mandating that criminals rehabilitate themselves.

    There is no problem that cannot be solved by passing a new law!

    Wickard v. Filburn, the case during the FDR era where a guy got in trouble for growing wheat in his yard to make his own bread because it "affects interstate commerce" (i.e., he did not buy wheat since he grew it), started this whole mess and should be overturned.

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    Hell no! Absolutely nothing should be enforced until the Supreme Court hands down a ruling, which should be expedited ASAP, before the 2012 elections.
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    I agree. Because a respectable percentage of states and populace have successfully argued that this is unconstitutional; it should be frozen in place until all of the cases and judgements run their course.

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    Too bad the judge didn't issue an injunction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerinTPA View Post
    Hell no! Absolutely nothing should be enforced until the Supreme Court hands down a ruling, which should be expedited ASAP, before the 2012 elections.
    Problem is that the supreme court has become as party oriented as every other branch of the federal government.

    Here's something for thought about our current checks and balance system...

    There are three parts to a new mafia. Theres the Don, The "Family Council", and the Family Lawyer's. They have set up a system of checks and balances to prevent them from going to far...

    If someone in the new Mafia has a gun to your head do think addressing the Council or their Lawyers is not going to save you.

    The Feds checking themselves through ambition only works if they can't align ambitions together to increase power over the people.
    If they can have more power for all of the fed and not just one branch 9 times out of 10 they take it.

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    The Obama Admin is trying to get the Dept of Justice to prevent the healthcare law before the supreme court. More strong arming to get their way.

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    I wouldnt be surprised if the messiah tried to get it enforced even if SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt_Overide View Post
    I wouldnt be surprised if the messiah tried to get it enforced even if SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional.
    He could always pull an Andy Jackson and say: "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ares armor View Post
    Problem is that the supreme court has become as party oriented as every other branch of the federal government.
    I wouldn't agree with that at all.

    The Supreme Court...and the judicial system in general...was hijacked by do-gooder progressives during the New Deal. FDR, the closest thing to an American dictator we've seen since King George, tried a court packing scheme and intimidated the court into suddenly seeing license in the Constitution for jailing somebody for selling wheat at below government mandated prices. Progressive activists began slicing the constitution into shreds to achieve outcomes they considered desirable. Examples would be holding that a restaurant's choice in clientele was subject to government regulation because the restaurant was purchasing products of interstate commerce, or holding that a hotel's choice in clientele was subject to government regulation because forbidding certain people from staying at said hotel could adversely impact interstate commerce.

    It wasn't until the Rehnquist court that the Supremes returned to the idea that the Constitution placed meaningful limits on the power of the federal government.

    The court isn't really "party oriented" as there are numerous examples of the members of the court skewering schemes of either party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Wayne777 View Post
    I wouldn't agree with that at all.

    The Supreme Court...and the judicial system in general...was hijacked by do-gooder progressives during the New Deal. FDR, the closest thing to an American dictator we've seen since King George, tried a court packing scheme and intimidated the court into suddenly seeing license in the Constitution for jailing somebody for selling wheat at below government mandated prices. Progressive activists began slicing the constitution into shreds to achieve outcomes they considered desirable. Examples would be holding that a restaurant's choice in clientele was subject to government regulation because the restaurant was purchasing products of interstate commerce, or holding that a hotel's choice in clientele was subject to government regulation because forbidding certain people from staying at said hotel could adversely impact interstate commerce.

    It wasn't until the Rehnquist court that the Supremes returned to the idea that the Constitution placed meaningful limits on the power of the federal government.

    The court isn't really "party oriented" as there are numerous examples of the members of the court skewering schemes of either party.
    Amen. It makes me cringe when people put FDR in the "best presidents" list
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