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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    The M16A1 was not a replacement for the M16.

    Both were concurrently serving rifles. Please do not keep perpetuating this myth.

    Both the M16 (Colt 604) and Colt 603 (XM16E1) were adopted in 1964.

    In 1967 the 603s name was changed to M16A1.

    The M16 (604) did not go out of production in 1967 but stayed into produciton into the 1970s and had all the updates that later ARs had (fully chrome lined, modern bolt carrier group, modern buffer, etc).

    The M16 was used by the Air Force and Navy.

    The M16A1 was used by the Army, Marines, and Navy.

    The only difference between these two rifles is the 604 does not have a forward assist and the 603 does.

    I would also like to see you post this on here and on the retro forum on ar15.com so all of us can proof read it for technical errors.
    Ugh, thanks for the corrections and clarifications. I ordered a copy of The Black Rifle: M16 Retrospective so I'm hoping that will clear up things as well.

    I'd be glad to post my preliminary draft on here but I try to avoid arfcom at all cost these days.

    I'll be focusing primarily on it's use in Vietnam, as my paper has to be directly connected with that conflict. I won't be touching any modern variations other than explaining that all of the issues that plagued it have now been resolved and that it remains highly popular with the troops (at least the ones that know how to maintain it and aren't repeating gunstore commando bullshit).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaltesherz View Post
    I'd be glad to post my preliminary draft on here but I try to avoid arfcom at all cost these days.



    You need to post it on there in the retro forum as well as there are more experts on there about the historical aspects than on M4C.net
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    Check old issues of American Rifleman. There were several good articles written about the subject during the sixties. Also check back issues of Soldier of Fortune. Another source would be to check for articles written by Kokalis (sp?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM Engineer View Post
    Get in touch with Daniel Watters.

    http://www.thegunzone.com/556dw.html
    Thanks for the plug.

    Ezell and Stevens' "The Black Rifle" is pretty much the standard to beat in an over-the-counter book. Besides the insights from Bill Davis, it also reprints portions of related military reports, including the Project Manager's Weekly Significant Action Reports.

    The Ichord Subcommittee transcripts and final report can be accessed through the HathiTrust Digital Library. You will want to take the final report with a grain of salt once you have read the transcripts.

    DTIC has a couple of volumes from the "Report of the M16 Rifle Review Panel" available for download. This was the Army's reply to the Ichord Subcommitte Report. The most important for your use will be the first volume, "History of the M16 Weapon System."

    As far as the Jouster site is concerned, you will note that Chivers incorporated Culver and other Marines' accounts in "The Gun."

    McNaugher's "The M16 Controversies" and Ezell's "The Great Rifle Controversy" will also be of help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dewatters View Post
    Thanks for the plug.

    Ezell and Stevens' "The Black Rifle" is pretty much the standard to beat in an over-the-counter book. Besides the insights from Bill Davis, it also reprints portions of related military reports, including the Project Manager's Weekly Significant Action Reports.

    The Ichord Subcommittee transcripts and final report can be accessed through the HathiTrust Digital Library. You will want to take the final report with a grain of salt once you have read the transcripts.

    DTIC has a couple of volumes from the "Report of the M16 Rifle Review Panel" available for download. This was the Army's reply to the Ichord Subcommitte Report. The most important for your use will be the first volume, "History of the M16 Weapon System."

    As far as the Jouster site is concerned, you will note that Chivers incorporated Culver and other Marines' accounts in "The Gun."

    McNaugher's "The M16 Controversies" and Ezell's "The Great Rifle Controversy" will also be of help.
    Thanks for the help! "The Black Rifle" should be showing up any day now, hopefully this weekend I'll find the time to go through various resources and at least put together an outline. I've breezed through your webpage a few times and good lord it's impressive... and a wee bit overwhelming at first. I can't imagine the amount of time that took to put together...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM Engineer View Post
    Get in touch with Daniel Watters.

    http://www.thegunzone.com/556dw.html
    Very informative website ....

    Thank You !!

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    Here's an early article written about the original Stoner AR-10 which laid the ground work for the M16
    http://jeffersonian.name/g1957/G0357.pdf
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    Besides books you might want to try interviewing a Vietnam vet to get their take on the rifle. I know I used to believe a lot of the hype about the original M16a1 until I met a Vietnam vet who served with the 502 PIR. It was interesting to find out how some of those guys modified their rifles to make them run a little better. One thing that I remember him mentioning was they used the foil wrapper from a stick of gun to polish the BCG. I know they also drilled out a corner of the hand guards so they could carry a sectional cleaning rod on the rifle.

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