
Originally Posted by
nickg
the real problem facing us in "ban" states, is that places like spikes, BCM and all the other "quality" makers listed in this thread (save colt), simply don't sell to our states. OR they do NOT make ban compliant rifles easily available with out long waits or otherwise even make them. This means that for me, I would need to buy one, then send it to an ffl here who will procede to RAPE me and do a crappy job "neutering" the gun to NJ laws. (some rather industrious shops can charge 200-500 for this btw)
I had a Bushmaster prior to the first ban and it NEVER gave me any problems, I just bought an a3 m4 for a nice deal ($750) new. I got a good price as part of a package where I bought a nice used 1911a1 as well. I fully inspected my new bushmaster and it has well staked key and extension,no H buffer (the "ban" edition uses an a2 buffer) 1/9 barrel mpi p marked barrel(i am fine with that), and a pinned brake. for what I paid, I am pretty pleased. If it needs the extractor upgraded, it's $15. I have the extra to do some upgrades now as needed (m16 bcg)
My point here is that you guys in "free states" are lucky. I would have loved to get a BCM or a Colt(which was 600 more) Spikes was my first choice, but they said 6-10 weeks to get a ban compliant rifle and then it was ALOT more $. I read all the HaterAID threads here and AR15.com. I carefully read all of them, they are VERY useful. I inspected a few AR's before I bought mine.
Thank you for the good info here.
here is praying NJ becomes a free state someday...
oh, if you want a REALLY good deal on a target shooter other than an ar, get a cmp garand. (I have 3)

Originally Posted by
Rush
Amen.
But in all seriousness- I was so limited when making the choice for an AR, by budget and by NJ Laws, so a Stag was my only option. I hope to soon get the BCM 14.5 mid-length upper, with a perm. PWS comp, but I'm paying so much for it. And even for a new lower I need a damn pinned stock, or a full stock. Hopefully, someday, I'll have the fortune of ordering a nice LMT, or Knights, or DD and sending it over to someone like ADCO, so they can defile it to be in compliance with out damn laws, but until then, for many of us, The BM/RRA/Stags are the only option.
Guys, I feel your pain, believe me. But we do not have to sacrifice quality just because we live in NJ.
Sure a BCM will cost you more than a BM but for only a little more you can have a better rifle if you are willing to do some work yourself.
I just built this guy and its fully NJ legal:

Notice the NJ inspection sticker for proof Im behind enemy lines with you guys.
Its all good parts... I think. Noveske, BCM, Magpul, LaRue, VLTOR, and Battlecomp.
Having a PWS brake pinned onto a BCM upper only costs $109. Not sure why they are charging $200 for a BC1.5 to be installed. There is no way it costs $20 to perm a PWS but $45 to perm a BC. I pinned by BC and my friend welded it for me for free. So there are other options.
A 14.5 middy with a pinned PWS FSC556, BCG and CH is $629.
If BCM will not ship a lower to NJ [Which I think they will, only Blem lowers are not available in NJ] then Grant should. You can get the lower with Magpul furn. for $411. If you get it with a NJ legal A2 stock its only $360 and you don't have to worry about pinning the stock. Add a $50 rear sight and you are at about $1040- $1100 without shipping and FFL fees. A Colt may be just a tiny bit more. If you get a blem lower, you can save another $90 which chould cover shipping and FFLs. If you get the lower with a collapsable stock, just have them shipped dissasembled. Then just buy some roll pins which are like $4 for 100, and some apoxy. In the comfort of you home find where the most comfortable posision of the stock is, and pin the sucker. I have done it twice, its not hard.
I bought my BM in NJ right after BHO was elected and I got ass raped. Had I known what I was doing or read this site, I would have gotten the BCM.
You have choices, and they are not terribly expencive.
I wish I was able to find any AR15 for $750 in Nov 2008. Maybe then I would not have so much regret about the BM. lol
..It was you to me who taught
In Jersey anythings' legal, as long as you don't get caught.
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