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    Updated Assault Weapons Ban (NY)

    Well apparently New York State is at it again! This bill is absolutely ridiculous! It is filled with gun hating rhetoric, contradictory statements, and uneducated definitions and "Facts."

    http://www.assembly.state.ny

    Please read through this and write to your politicians! I've been working on a writing for the past few days. Do your part!

    This will make it so that all legal "Assault Weapons" under the new definitions will have to be ether surrendered or submitted for testing and holding while a background check is being performed. Upon completion of the background check, the "testing", the ballistic fingerprinting of the firearm, the registration of the firearm, and the return of the weapon in a sealed container, the owner will not be prohibited from possessing the firearm.

    The firearm will only be allowed to be possessed "on property owned or immediately controlled by the person, or while on the premises of a licensed gunsmith for the purpose of lawful repair, or while engaging in legal travel to or from these locations by a person who lawfully possessed these weapons...(Section 4, E)"

    Also: Wording Change:
    "Section 2, 22. "Assault Weapon" means Any:
    semi-automatic or pump-action rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has ONE or more of the following:"

    Interesting huh? And where did the pump action even come from?

    Illegal items:
    -Pistol grip
    -VFG
    -Folding, telescoping, or THUMB HOLE STOCK
    -Handguards and rails
    -Muzzle devices

    Assault pistol has a muzzle brake, no more of those muzzle brakes!

    Semi Shotgun that has ONE or more:
    -Pistol Grip
    -Folding telescoping, or thumb hole stock
    -Fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds or a detachable magazine

    A shotgun with a revolving cylinder

    or possession of any parts that an assault weapon can be made from. Better throw out those parts bins, they may have a VFG in them somewhere....


    -Bullet button as it can be removed with a cartage or bullet (guess they don't consider it a tool)


    Now my head hurts... Lets see how this goes!

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    1. RENDERS THE ASSAULT WEAPON PERMANENTLY INOPERABLE;

    I actually like that line in it.

    "The New York state legislature finds that semi-automatic assault weapons are military-style guns designed to allow rapid and accurate spray firing for the quick and efficient killing of humans. The shooter can simply point - as opposed to carefully aim - the weapon to quickly spray a wide area with a hail of bullets."

    Seriously WHO RIGHTS THIS STUFF!

    Sounds like a bill that I am highly against, even if I am in Texas
    Last edited by swsmailman; 02-12-11 at 11:49.

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    Welcome to NY! Pay up and hand over your guns!

    Although, I have to add that being an LEO in NY... Not very many coppers are going to be too motivated to go around looking for otherwise law abiding citizens AR's. However the risk you run (as it is everywhere) is the "YMMV Factor"...find a particular cop or particular dept with no common sense or allowable discretion and you could be in for a major headache. But if you put us into a position where we have our discretionary hands tied, or you are an @##$*le, watch out. And God help you if you have to use your "Assault Weapon" in a legit defensive shoot.

    Anecdotal story. The only time I personally saw this charged was when two knuckleheads were caught outside a bar with an AR waiting "to scare" an ex-GF's new boyfriend. Copper driving through the lot sees the occupants scrambling around and tossing a long gun into the back seat.

    The charge was dropped by the DA and the weapon returned.

    Between HR218 and State Law exempting LEO's I'm in a good spot, but I dont like doing that. I was a 2nd amendment guy long before I got on this job and "fair is fair". I have been making sure that all my personal weapons are as state legal as everybody elses. This is going to be a headache.

    Try to figure out NY...Im still working on it.
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    Man what a state we live in indeed.

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    I certainly hope the citizens of New York state call and write thier state legislators to stop this crazy bill.

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    Can anyone give any light as to whether this bill has a chance of passing?

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    In NY? I wish I could tell you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgace View Post
    In NY? I wish I could tell you....
    What he said.

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    Boy and I thought we were screwed out here in California...which we are of course but thats nuts.

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    Total insanity, but just out of curiosity do we know how much support the bill actually has?
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