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    Deficit Reduction My Ass!

    With the release of the President's proposed budget, we're being treated to yet another round of partisan bickering and bitch slapping about who's gonna do what to address the budget deficit and the federal debt.

    And the truth is nobody, save maybe Ron Paul (who's been talking to an empty room forever), is prepared to do shit about it. I watched one of the newly elected Tea Party house members tie himself in knots yesterday trying to evade committing himself to a substantive position on virtually anything. Amazing how quick the campaign rhetoric gets tossed overboard once these guys realize they're no longer a candidate, they're an incumbent. And lest anyone accuse me of grinding a political ax here, the democrats are no better.

    So I enjoyed listening to retired Senator Alan Simpson, who served as co-chair on the President Obama's National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (whose recommendations, by the way, were spot on and, thus, ignored or reviled by conservatives and liberals alike), offer some plain speak yesterday on Candy Crowley's CNN show:

    "But the next time you hear... a career politician get up and say, "I know we can get this done; we're going to get rid of all earmarks, all waste, fraud, and abuse, all foreign aid, Air Force one, all congressional pensions," that's a sparrow's belch in the midst of a typhoon. That's about six, eight, 10 percent of where we are.

    So I'm waiting for the politician to get up and say, there's only one way to do this, you dig into the big four, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and defense. And anybody giving you anything different than that, you want to walk out the door, stick your finger down your throat and give them the green weenie (ph)."


    Would that Obama or Boehner had the balls to say the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montanadave View Post
    Would that Obama or Boehner had the balls to say the same thing.
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    I can play Obamas game. I can jack the budget up a few million percent (slightly exaggerated) and the lop 10% off it and claim reduction too.

    They are all a bunch of idiot crooks.
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    More and more each day I think no one is going to do whats got to be done, and we are just going to slowly fade away or we will just crash as the world turns away from the dollar and goes with something else.



    In the last two weeks Ive heard of 100 billion being cut....when we are running a deficit over a trillion. Its laughable actually. Make it a trillion and we'd be getting somewhere.

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    We could cut a Trillion from Medicaid, Medicare and Welfare spending (Section 8, etc). I'd be more hesitant to cut from Defense, as it is an industry that actually earns it's keep in my eyes.

    I'd rather see the generational welfare bums go without than a member of our Armed Forces serving in harms way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    More and more each day I think no one is going to do whats got to be done, and we are just going to slowly fade away or we will just crash as the world turns away from the dollar and goes with something else.



    In the last two weeks Ive heard of 100 billion being cut....when we are running a deficit over a trillion. Its laughable actually. Make it a trillion and we'd be getting somewhere.
    I agree. Thats why its important for Conservatives in the GOP to vote for real change in the Republican presidential primaries. I have no interest in Romney. He's just a retread. I'd like to see Ron Paul make a serious run.

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    RP on the ticket would guarantee a 2nd term for Obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cagemonkey View Post
    I agree. Thats why its important for Conservatives in the GOP to vote for real change in the Republican presidential primaries. I have no interest in Romney. He's just a retread. I'd like to see Ron Paul make a serious run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GermanSynergy View Post
    We could cut a Trillion from Medicaid, Medicare and Welfare spending (Section 8, etc). I'd be more hesitant to cut from Defense, as it is an industry that actually earns it's keep in my eyes.

    I'd rather see the generational welfare bums go without than a member of our Armed Forces serving in harms way.



    There is a lot of waste in the DOD that could be cut without even affecting capability.


    Instead they will cut things like new barracks construction and training dollars while still spending billions on various programs then cutting them like the Commanche, new Marine One, FCS, ect. The DOD is good about spending piles of money on programs then cancelling them. Oh another one I forgot about is the Marine landing craft.


    We can cut a lot of waste out of the DOD. For instance overseas bases and shuttling entire families all over the world. In fact I saw a spouse of a soldier in Germany get a breast reduction surgery at a German hospital...he said it cost over 50k on the bills they got which was paid for by tri-care. Then to move his family with kids all the way to Germany, and house them there for 3 years was pricey. Just this one guy's family cost the gov more than I got paid as a single soldier my entire 1st enlistment. I forgot during that time too, she has 2 more kids all which were birthed at a German hospital.


    All at the same time we were told we couldn't get replacement parts for our mission essential equipment because the unit was out of funds, and we wouldnt get more until we deployed. So we had to deploy with 1/3rd of our generators not working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermanSynergy View Post
    RP on the ticket would guarantee a 2nd term for Obama.
    Then we have to do some soul searching. Do we vote for the lesser of two evils and perpetuate the problem? Do we vote our conscience and accept the consequences? If Obama wins a second term, its not the end of the world. The recent congressional victories the Repubs have had are directly due to the Obama Admin. A Obama second term could actually be a good thing. If we McCain had been President, would there be a TEA party? Overall, I agree with Belmont. Both parties are killing our Constitution and Country. We need more Libertarians. I'll accept tactical losses for strategic victory.

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    I agree- Imagine a Republican Senate and House in '12, with a 2/3 majority. His second term would be Lame Duckery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cagemonkey View Post
    Then we have to do some soul searching. Do we vote for the lesser of two evils and perpetuate the problem? Do we vote our conscience and accept the consequences? If Obama wins a second term, its not the end of the world. The recent congressional victories the Repubs have had are directly due to the Obama Admin. A Obama second term could actually be a good thing. If we McCain had been President, would there be a TEA party? Overall, I agree with Belmont. Both parties are killing our Constitution and Country. We need more Libertarians. I'll accept tactical losses for strategic victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GermanSynergy View Post
    I agree- Imagine a Republican Senate and House in '12, with a 2/3 majority. His second term would be Lame Duckery.
    We can only vote and hope for the best.

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