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Thread: I know my BM isn't a top tier rifle (rambling inside)......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayw13th View Post
    I bought a BM a year ago before i found this site. Upon first reading the criticism of the brand i was a little upset. I owned a Oly during the big Brady ban and sold it about 8 years back to pay bills. I worked at a pawn shop and was taught my ABC's. I bought a Texas DPS carbine i found used at Gander Mountain and it has been a great rifle. But i decided to read and learn before i posted and i learned, ALOT. I love my BM it is a great recreational gun for me and the wife. But on friday i get my Bravo Company upper to go on my spikes lower and the BCM bolt will hopefully arrive on Saturday or Monday. I paid 999.95 before tax for my BM. Shipping and all i will come in at 1005.00 on my custom build.

    What i have ordered.
    Spikes tactical Jolly Roger stripped lower.
    Palmetto State armory LPK-mil spec buffer tube and moe furniture.
    BCM 14.5 M4 upper with a2x perm
    BCM bolt complete
    BCM gunfighter medium charging handle
    Magpul carbine hand guard
    Magpul BUS rear.

    My lovely wife ordered me the upper and did not realize that the bolt and charging handle were not included because she wanted to surprise me. So i ordered them separately.

    So with my experience i am not sure why anyone would want to go with an inferior product.

    I bought the spikes locally and the shop i bought from was selling Spikes complete m4's with all Magpul furniture for 995.00.
    I have yet to find a better deal for a quality rifle.

    I want to thank all the knowledgeable people for helping me to learn what was incorrectly drilled into my head.
    So clearly there are those who are simply recreational shooters and then there are those who want a quality rifle to depend their lives on. Some people are both.

    You sir are both and that is perfectly fine.

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    I still feel dirty because my lower has a BM roll mark. The old HBar A2 upper sits in the closet replaced by a Spikes. The receiver extension will be replaced shortly and the h2 buffer is waiting for the collapse m4 stock that is in the mail.(vltor was out of stock in my color).
    Thus all that is left of my original BM will be the lower, minus the stock.

    I'm not out that much as my original BM was a post ban circa 1998 when BM was the thing to get. Times change.

    And ill still be looked down on despite doing exactly what the forum stickies say. However my new optic came with some sage advice. (courtesy of DDef).

    "Go shoot your rifle"

    I'll get over feeling dirty. In the end Id rather be looked on as a good shooter with a bad rifle than a lousy shooter, with a good rifle.

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    I did the buy once cry once. Started my rifle with a blackthorne upper. Bit by bit I replaced it to resolve issues until there was no more of their junk on my rifle. But then I still felt strange having the old Sharps lower on it so it went too. Now the buffer tube and spring and MBUIS are all that remain from my initial mistake and I have a rifle I wouldn't hesitate to trust my life to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBelly View Post

    I'm at a bit of a crossroads, though. I know that I can "fix" parts of my BM and make it better than what it started out, or I can save my dough and drop it on a REAL firearm.

    I feel morally obligated to support my local businesses/small businesses/I think you know where I'm going with that. I'll even over pay a bit if I know that it helps put the money back into a local community. If you're still reading, here's where my question is:

    What are the smaller makers that still produce a good, quality product?

    -Bely
    Noveske is local, at least to me. I don't mind supporting local vendors. =)
    Here ------> Noveske

    I say, save you're money, and go with something that you'll absolutely love. As the saying goes, (Buy once, cry once).
    Noveske usually has some pretty sweet deals from time to time, which sometimes includes a free *blemished?* lower with the purchase of a upper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TXBob View Post
    I still feel dirty because my lower has a BM roll mark. The old HBar A2 upper sits in the closet replaced by a Spikes. The receiver extension will be replaced shortly and the h2 buffer is waiting for the collapse m4 stock that is in the mail.(vltor was out of stock in my color).
    Thus all that is left of my original BM will be the lower, minus the stock.

    I'm not out that much as my original BM was a post ban circa 1998 when BM was the thing to get. Times change.
    Times certainly do change.

    Since I'm a Californian, all of my go-to ARs have BM lowers. Those were purchased back in '99 during the huge ban ramp-up. My CA-neutered rifles are a mix/match of Kaiser Defense, and LMT lowers.

    The roll-mark doesn't bother me, as none of my BM lowers have given me any grief. They all have H buffers and mil receiver extensions, so all is good. Two of them have seen good use in classes, and extra curricular training. All my rifles wear LMT or BCM complete uppers.
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    I think the message that is trying to be said here is this:


    • The lower receiver does not determine the quality of the rifle.

    • The upper receiver does not determine the quality of the rifle.

    • The barrel determines the quality of the rifle.

    • The bolt determines the quality of the rifle.

    • The carrier determines the quality of the rifle.

    • The fire control components determine the quality of the rifle.


    I can take a stripped oly lower and upper receiver components and put a quality barrel, BCG, and LPK and that rifle would be just as good as a complete BCM, DD, LMT, etc.

    Even if I missed a component, my point still stands. It is not the lower or the upper receiver that make that rifle good or not good.

    With that said if a part is out of spec, then that is a different matter all together. Even the top manufacturers make components out of spec from time to time.

    I think this thread is just about over and we are simply beating a dead horse.
    Last edited by Evil Bert; 02-16-11 at 19:50.

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    If you can make it up to Arvada, there is a store called 5280 armory. I don't know how there prices compare to what you can get online but they stock DD, Noveske, KAC, Colt, and other top of the line AR brands (along with all the crap too of course). They have some really cool SBR Noveske uppers that I would love to get my hands on.
    Last edited by RancidSumo; 02-16-11 at 20:14.
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    What the **** is tier crud? Sorry, I don't into silly "tier" nonsense. I buy into a quality manufacturer that has a proven track record. You make a point of mentioning some Colt that had issues. And once again we are talking a sample of one.

    How many Colts are in use in combat on a daily basis by our troops? Now tell me how many BM's?

    Every Colt that I have seen fail was either improperly maintained or dicked with by someone who shouldn't be allowed to own hand tools.

    Jam is something that goes on toast for breakfast. Malfunctions are something that happen to firearms.

    The 1100 round comparison means nothing unless it was in 1 weekend. My SBR has over 3500 rounds through it with almost no cleaning and it is still running. 500 of which were in 2 days. So what's the point?

    Quote Originally Posted by TXBSAFH View Post
    IMHO the tier crud is BS. I do not see the need to pay $2000 to get what I can for less the $900. I have had 3 AR fully assembled (Have soem stripped lowers I am buying parts for) the BM, a colt, and a S&W. Only the colt gave me issues, started to jam after less the 200 rounds no matter the ammo or mags. I have several friends with BM's and RRA's no issues, one got one last year to replace a post ban DPMS that was stolen in a burgary, as of 2 weeks ago when we shot togther he had fired 1100 rounds without cleaning and no isssues.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Jam is something that goes on toast for breakfast. Malfunctions are something that happen to firearms.

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    In addition to what Grant suggested, I'd get the chamber reamed for peace of mind.
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