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I still feel dirty because my lower has a BM roll mark. The old HBar A2 upper sits in the closet replaced by a Spikes. The receiver extension will be replaced shortly and the h2 buffer is waiting for the collapse m4 stock that is in the mail.(vltor was out of stock in my color).
Thus all that is left of my original BM will be the lower, minus the stock.
I'm not out that much as my original BM was a post ban circa 1998 when BM was the thing to get. Times change.
And ill still be looked down on despite doing exactly what the forum stickies say. However my new optic came with some sage advice. (courtesy of DDef).
"Go shoot your rifle"
I'll get over feeling dirty. In the end Id rather be looked on as a good shooter with a bad rifle than a lousy shooter, with a good rifle.
I did the buy once cry once. Started my rifle with a blackthorne upper. Bit by bit I replaced it to resolve issues until there was no more of their junk on my rifle. But then I still felt strange having the old Sharps lower on it so it went too. Now the buffer tube and spring and MBUIS are all that remain from my initial mistake and I have a rifle I wouldn't hesitate to trust my life to.
Noveske is local, at least to me. I don't mind supporting local vendors. =)
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I say, save you're money, and go with something that you'll absolutely love. As the saying goes, (Buy once, cry once).
Noveske usually has some pretty sweet deals from time to time, which sometimes includes a free *blemished?* lower with the purchase of a upper.
Last edited by Mr. Biggles; 02-16-11 at 17:06.
Times certainly do change.
Since I'm a Californian, all of my go-to ARs have BM lowers. Those were purchased back in '99 during the huge ban ramp-up. My CA-neutered rifles are a mix/match of Kaiser Defense, and LMT lowers.
The roll-mark doesn't bother me, as none of my BM lowers have given me any grief. They all have H buffers and mil receiver extensions, so all is good. Two of them have seen good use in classes, and extra curricular training. All my rifles wear LMT or BCM complete uppers.
Last edited by JimT; 02-16-11 at 16:22.
I think the message that is trying to be said here is this:
- The lower receiver does not determine the quality of the rifle.
- The upper receiver does not determine the quality of the rifle.
- The barrel determines the quality of the rifle.
- The bolt determines the quality of the rifle.
- The carrier determines the quality of the rifle.
- The fire control components determine the quality of the rifle.
I can take a stripped oly lower and upper receiver components and put a quality barrel, BCG, and LPK and that rifle would be just as good as a complete BCM, DD, LMT, etc.
Even if I missed a component, my point still stands. It is not the lower or the upper receiver that make that rifle good or not good.
With that said if a part is out of spec, then that is a different matter all together. Even the top manufacturers make components out of spec from time to time.
I think this thread is just about over and we are simply beating a dead horse.
Last edited by Evil Bert; 02-16-11 at 19:50.
If you can make it up to Arvada, there is a store called 5280 armory. I don't know how there prices compare to what you can get online but they stock DD, Noveske, KAC, Colt, and other top of the line AR brands (along with all the crap too of course). They have some really cool SBR Noveske uppers that I would love to get my hands on.
Last edited by RancidSumo; 02-16-11 at 20:14.
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What the **** is tier crud? Sorry, I don't into silly "tier" nonsense. I buy into a quality manufacturer that has a proven track record. You make a point of mentioning some Colt that had issues. And once again we are talking a sample of one.
How many Colts are in use in combat on a daily basis by our troops? Now tell me how many BM's?
Every Colt that I have seen fail was either improperly maintained or dicked with by someone who shouldn't be allowed to own hand tools.
Jam is something that goes on toast for breakfast. Malfunctions are something that happen to firearms.
The 1100 round comparison means nothing unless it was in 1 weekend. My SBR has over 3500 rounds through it with almost no cleaning and it is still running. 500 of which were in 2 days. So what's the point?
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