Why do people find my beliefs so offensive?

[ChicagoTex]

Have you not been reading anything at all in these last 5 pages? By many conservative opinions, heterosexuals are perfectly fine with being reclassified as some other type of union, provided they're not lumped in with homosexual unions and that there's a similar yet different term used to describe homosexual unions. It's the homosexuals who want all marriages called the same - they aren't. That's what this entire debate is about.

Chadbag has pointed out why heterosexual marriages have been glorified and preserved throughout history; his assessments are dead on, having studied the history of marriage myself (albeit somewhat briefly). It is for those reasons that heterosexual marriage requires to be separate from other marriages and they from it.

I'm perfectly fine with having marriage renamed to "heterosexual union" and homosexuals having a "homosexual union." That falls perfectly in line with the "different but equal" philosophy that our country was founded on. What I'm not ok with is some transvestite wanting to lump their own perverse relationship in with mine and insist on calling them the same.

Obviously you don't understand the point behind my Jim Crowe reference, so allow me to be more explicit: Heterosexual marriage can be reclassified as a civil union, and homosexual marriage will also be called civil union. Regardless of what you call it, it must, as a matter of law, be called the same for both types of unions.
Seperate but equal is done, and we're not gonna go back to it just because homosexual marriage makes conservatives feel less married.

[Magic_Salad0892]

Is there any way to approach this debate without religious argument?

[RancidSumo]

Says everyone your age.


You're not seeing the whole picture because you can't possibly see the whole picture from down there. And even up here you'll only get part of the picture, and there's plenty of people much further up the age ladder than me that see even more.

It's good to be a righteously indignant teenager/twenty-something. and I'd much rather you be righteously indignant with beliefs similar to mine than the kind of "grass roots" bullshit that got us a mooslimb for a president.

Kids, marriage, a job, no job, a critically ill family member, a death in the family, trying to start a side or small business and getting your whole income taxed away from you, moving to a new town, traveling outside the country, military service, a run in with the law (yours or someone close to you), etc. all will change the way you look at things.

You are really full of yourself, aren't you? I seriously hate hearing this crap about, "Oh you're just nineteen years old, you can't possibly know what you are talking about." Why not explain to me where I've gone wrong and how your life experiences have shown you that instead of this whole, "you'll understand when you are older" garbage? I'm not four anymore so that explanation doesn't fly with me.

[chadbag]

Obviously you don't understand the point behind my Jim Crowe reference, so allow me to be more explicit: Heterosexual marriage can be reclassified as a civil union, and homosexual marriage will also be called civil union. Regardless of what you call it, it must, as a matter of law, be called the same for both types of unions.

No, it doesn't, because they are not the same thing. Legal contract part may be the same and fall under the same law sections, but the unions are different in other than legal ways.

I am bowing out of this since the OP was not talking about this and I have detracted from the OP enough.

Seperate but equal is done, and we're not gonna go back to it just because homosexual marriage makes conservatives feel less married.

There is no separate but equal thing here. That is a red herring. Legally the contractual part is the same. But marriage by definition cannot include so-called gay marriage unless you throw away thousands of years of societal wisdom and history for the sake of political correctness.

And the fact that you want to say "makes conservatives feel less married" tells me and everyone else you don't have a clue about what the issue is.