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Thread: Adams Arms vs. LWRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertime View Post
    It's great to get out and try something new. You can always go back.

    Right now there are a lot of new options getting good reviews -
    FN Scar
    H&K 416/MR556
    Adams Arms
    LMT
    LWRC
    Addax (new upper out in March)
    PWS
    KAC PDW is a dual piston rifle.
    Ares Shrike is a piston system.
    COLT is now bringing a piston to the market.
    Barret REC7
    Bushy ACR
    Which of those companies have interchangeable parts based on a pre-set standard?

    Piston driven guns certainly take away some fun in regards to parts availability and the tinkering and the 'frankenguns'.....

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    Am I to believe then that the LWRC piston AR is acceptable to even those around here??
    Last edited by sr71plane; 02-19-11 at 20:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sr71plane View Post
    Am I to believe then that the LWRC piston AR is acceptable to even those around here??

    Maybe with the exception of Markm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sff70 View Post
    If it takes you more than 15 min to clean a DI gun, you're doing something wrong.
    Absolutely not true. Its a personal thing, and I take about 45 mins to an hour on my weapon. I put at least 300 rnds down range every time I go shooting and when I go home I take my time and clean my weapon thoroughly. I have all lmt, but that doesn't mean I don't sit down and make sure my weapon is cleaned to "my" standards. And for the piston thing, I don't see any benefit going that route. In my experience the piston doesn't have much if any advantage over conventional Di system. I will have to agree with others and go with a quality build from LMT, BCM, DD etc. I would save the money for an aimpoint if you don't already have an optic.

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    Detail cleaning is one thing, but a 15 minute job on the upper will keep it functional & running.


    Quote Originally Posted by kyrin88 View Post
    Absolutely not true. Its a personal thing, and I take about 45 mins to an hour on my weapon. I put at least 300 rnds down range every time I go shooting and when I go home I take my time and clean my weapon thoroughly. I have all lmt, but that doesn't mean I don't sit down and make sure my weapon is cleaned to "my" standards. And for the piston thing, I don't see any benefit going that route. In my experience the piston doesn't have much if any advantage over conventional Di system. I will have to agree with others and go with a quality build from LMT, BCM, DD etc. I would save the money for an aimpoint if you don't already have an optic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GermanSynergy View Post
    Detail cleaning is one thing, but a 15 minute job on the upper will keep it functional & running.
    I agree, because when I am done shooting at the range I run a bore snake through it so cleaning is easy when I get home. But, sometimes you just have to get into those crevices. you know the whole anal thing when it comes to cleaning a weapon; well at least they implant this in your brain as a marine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sr71plane View Post
    Why is it that when someone talks about a piston AR around here they get the, "Tenth degree" put on them. I get it. Most folks around here think that DI AR's are better. However, there are piston guns out there. Try to get over it.
    maybe because they are trying to be helpful?

    to those that don't have much experience with something, any new thing can seem like a good idea. those with experience can tell you for sure if it is...

    why do you doubt or disdain that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyrin88 View Post
    I agree, because when I am done shooting at the range I run a bore snake through it so cleaning is easy when I get home. But, sometimes you just have to get into those crevices. you know the whole anal thing when it comes to cleaning a weapon; well at least they implant this in your brain as a marine.
    if you want to clean your gun religiously every time you shoot, then you should. there's no reason not to and in the process you give it an examination that can discover potential problems. but it is just not a necessity with an AR.

    some folks who advise against cleaning are sensitive to the bad rap that the original M16 received about reliability if not kept squeaky clean and would like for that myth to die. clean if you must. or don't. it won't matter much either way...
    never push a wrench...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermanSynergy View Post
    Detail cleaning is one thing, but a 15 minute job on the upper will keep it functional & running.
    Amen brother.

    I have YET to see what a 'piston AR' does better than a standard 'direct impingement' AR here in the U.S. It may surface one day but I haven't seen that since shooting this platform since 1975.....but I'm optimistic.

    I shoot 3gun, own SBRs, own suppressed SBRs, shoot a fair amount of full auto, train in all conditions, have shot classes and matches in the rain, desert, cold etc for a few days and a few thousand rounds in a few days and work on these guns multiple everyday but take my opinion with a grain of salt since I haven't been everywhere in the world....FWIW the only gun I have that F'd up during class was an AK (Arsenal SLR-106 5.56mm AK that went back Arsenal and is fine now) YMMV but what the hell do I know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave L. View Post
    True, you can always spend three times more money based on bad advice.



    I would love for you to expound on this...

    Spending 3x more money is just incorrect...

    Say you want a 10.5" upper with an adj. block for shooting suppressed:

    Option #1 - You quote a 10.5 Noveske light shorty switchblock adjustable block upper chrome lined with cut-out rail and standard BCG - gonna cost you $1200+. You quote an adj. piston complete upper, perhaps LWRC's M6A3 - the upper alone is like $1600+!

    Option #2 - Adams Arms 11.5" Tactical Elite upper with adjustable gas block, 1x7 barrel with FSB cut-out rail and chronographed MV closer to those of 16" barrels - gonna cost you $885 shipped.

    I think you could find a gas block/fsb ($50), gas tube ($13), and bcg ($130) to refit if you didn't like it and still (price-wise) best the Noveske or M6A3, which are comparable adjustable gas block choices. You should have the aforementioned parts laying around if you've fooled with ARs much. I think it's definitely worth a try on your next build.


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