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Thread: Four American Hostages Killed by Somali Pirates

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    Quote Originally Posted by variablebinary View Post
    I don't agree. I believe in humanitarian aid.
    In cases like Somalia humanitarian aid actually leads to greater suffering. That is because some cultures will always overpopulate so there is no ending the suffering. Ironically if you help them less, fewer suffer because the numbers are smaller. The fact that they choose to live in an area with virtually no resources compounds the problem.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Barbary Wars - it is time to do this again, except in Somalia
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/barbary.htm

    "In 1805 Marines stormed the Barbary pirates' harbor fortress stronghold of Derna (Tripoli), commemorated in the Marine Corp Hymn invocation "To the Shores of Tripoli." First Lieutenant O'Bannon is remembered for heroism in the battle for Derna. O'Bannon's Marines were the first U.S. forces to hoist the flag over territory in the Old World. The "Mameluke" sword, carried by Marines officers today, was presented to O'Bannon in 1805."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Source? I'd like to read about that.
    From FOX News.com

    "When U.S. Special Operations Forces (SOF) soldiers -- from a classified Navy SEALS unit -- reached the yacht, they found two pirates had already been killed by small arms fire. As they went below deck there was an exchange of fire that killed one pirate. The other pirate was killed by an SOF member who used a knife in close combat, Vice Adm. Fox said."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanB View Post
    Apparent the Navy boarding team killed a pirate with a knife.
    [Nathan Explosion] Brutal. [/Nathan Explosion]

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    Quote Originally Posted by variablebinary View Post
    But bet your ass I'd have a couple of scoped .308's on hand to deal with shit heads.
    I am not a maritime lawyer, but I think there are maritime laws and Port of Call laws, as well as registry laws that make having ARMS on sailing vessels that stop in various countries or go through the Suez Canal an ILLEGAL option, getting one arrested, ship impounded, and spending months in some second or third world craphole jail...

    I think it is stupid and foolish, but to the maritime law people, they can't have everyone arming up their ships. Only the government and military should have armed ships...

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-1 View Post
    The other pirate was killed by an SOF member who used a knife in close combat, Vice Adm. Fox said."
    Talk about upholding the feared reputation. God bless the SEALs.

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    Prayers sent for the four murdered Americans. May their families receive comfort and strength.

    I think HOPLOETHOS has the right idea. Especially since he advocates using a .50 in the carbine role.

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    While I'm sure arms could be hidden succussfully, avoidance is key.

    It's not like the pirate problem and their AO aren't known.

    The victims failed at that, and paid dearly.

    Good job by NSW. Wonder which knife he used.

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    Maybe we should get the Russians to handle our hostage situations on the high seas.
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    Bullet in the back of the head is too quick and too expensive. Make em walk the plank 100 or so miles at sea then cut open a whole blood bag and toss in amongst them (I'll donate a pint for the cause)....Let the sharks, exposure and drowning do them in don't waste the bullets.....
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