Four American Hostages Killed by Somali Pirates

[chadbag]

You want to yacht around the coast of Africa, fine. Hell it sounds like fun, and I would love to do it too. But bet your ass I'd have a couple of scoped .308's on hand to deal with shit heads.

And a belt fed, a few shotguns, and a few ARs, and a 50 rifle.

[chadbag]

If you want to go and pass out your religious doctrine and it's text(Christianity/ Holy Bible in this case) around the world than you better damn well be prepared to face dangerous, deadly, and unpredicatable situations on a moment's notice. They chose to pass Bibles out and in doing so made terrible decisions and overall used a complete lack of good judgment and hindsight that ultimately lead to this very sad conclusion.

This is nothing new in regards to Christian missionary's spreading the good word in a bad land and paying the cost for doing so ultimately. Last one I remember besides the numerous South American missionary kidnappings was the Christian missionary cpl. from the U.S. that were in the Philippines and were abducted just prior to 911 IIrc. One lived...one died.

Yes, you should use your head. I agree. I would not be passing out Bibles in that part of the land except to people who asked for one and then in a discrete manner. (I probably would not be passing out Bibles to anyone myself personally but if I were that is what I would do)

However, in this case, they were not attacked and killed because they were passing out Bibles. They were prey on the high sees to be ransomed and when they started being followed by the US Navy it seems they decided to cut and run (kill the hostages and try to escape). The Bibles had nothing to do with it as far as I can tell.

[ALCOAR]

With all do respect, I believe the bibles had everything to do with it. As American's we all should understand that these uneducated, poverty stricken, third world areas around the globe only want American dollars, not a Religious view or the associated text. Not to mention many of these shit holes on earth are inhabited by Muslims who have that much more reason to kill you and your American Christian ideology.

So forgive me if I am mistaken, but when your expressed travel log is plotted towards the most inhospitable and unsafe place on earth and you stat that your reason for doing so is to pass out bibles, how can anything but their wanting to spread their religious views and bibles be the cause for their sad demise.

Same thing with the 2001 cpl. in the Philippines...100% there spreading the good word, Abu Sayyaf and the Somalia pirates are no different from each other, and both had that much easier of a time I'm sure targeting and then killing these Christian American's.

I have no beef with anybody handing out bible's to third world indigents who couldn't even read the thing if they wanted....even though I am strongly against people pushing their religious views to anybody. I'm all about people having the freedom to do stupid things. Sad part is that here these people are going through hell to please their God that ultimately did not protect them.

" According to reports, the couple started their journey as part of an international yacht race but left the race early to deliver Bibles to remote regions of the world."

[kmrtnsn]

While I'm sure arms could be hidden succussfully, avoidance is key.

It's not like the pirate problem and their AO aren't known.

The victims failed at that, and paid dearly.

Good job by NSW. Wonder which knife he used.

That is called "smuggling" and is always a bad idea. Almost everywhere a conveyance (fancy word for vessel or vehicle) used to smuggle is forfeit, not to mention the smuggler is subject to criminal charges; never a good thing in a third world piss-pot.

What is truly asinine is that this little ship of fools was traveling in a flotilla of other vessels but broke off on their own near Oman before being captured.

[jaydoc1]

Handle it the way the Russians did. Interview the pirates. Put them all back on board their floating piece of shit and then let all the sailors have target practice with the on-board weapons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDmdt...eature=related

Sure, having the international community like us is okay, but a large amount of fear of us is better. Fear is something all the nations and peoples of the world understand. Respect for human life is not. Respect is for our allies. Swift justice should be for those who would attack us. There should be no pirates left alive to stand trial.

[parishioner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDmdt...eature=related

[rickrock305]

Handle it the way the Russians did. Interview the pirates. Put them all back on board their floating piece of shit and then let all the sailors have target practice with the on-board weapons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDmdt...eature=related

Is it wrong that I found myself chuckling throughout that video?

[D. Christopher]

I'm sorry this happened, these were no doubt very decent people, the kind you would want for neighbors. Having said that, the sad truth is that these people had been sailing with other boats for some time and decided to go off on their own. They were warned not to, but against that advice they chose to go solo anyway. The pirates may have captured them for ransom, but when they found bibles on board some of them may have changed their minds. The pirates may have already known about their proselytizing in the area. There may have even been a dispute amongst the pirates about what to do with the hostages because two pirates were already dead of gunshot wounds when the first boarding party arrived. The boarders didn't have any resistance from the 13 pirates who were already on deck with their hands up. After boarding they found two more pirates hiding and shot one and used the knife on the other. Some of the hostages were still barely alive but couldn't be saved.

It's too bad our elected officials lack the resolve to deal with this issue, because it's one of the few areas where we could make a big difference almost overnight, and with minimal resources.

ETA: A few days ago a Somali pirate named Muse Abdi declared "Killing hostages has now become part of our rules." This was in response to the 33 year sentence given to a Somali pirate last week for his part in the 2009 attack on the Maersk Alabama. Abdi went on to say "From now on, anyone who tries to rescue hostages in our hands will only collect dead bodies."

[Belmont31R]

When you sail on the open seas you put yourself at extreme risk. My FIL has told me many tales of his days sailing around the Caribbean, and that seems like a cake walk to the Arabian seas.



I also think its time for these pirates be dealt with front on, and in an extreme manner.

[variablebinary]

Maybe we should get the Russians to handle our hostage situations on the high seas.

You really want your loved ones rescued by Russians? You probably won't see them again.

Rescue mission for Russians means leading with RPG's instead of Tanks and Air Strikes