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Thread: Broken BAD Lever and Resulting Problems

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    Sorry to reply so late, been busy. Like you may already well know now, the Phase 5 is one piece. All 7075 aluminum. The BHO is a standard BHO that you would get from BCM, Colt, DD, LMT, GandR, etc. The extension is securely attached. No glue. I don't care for the logo or the crazy cuts in the lever, but if you don;t like the idea of a bolted on BAD, then the Phase5 is your lever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Bert View Post
    Sorry to reply so late, been busy. Like you may already well know now, the Phase 5 is one piece. All 7075 aluminum. The BHO is a standard BHO that you would get from BCM, Colt, DD, LMT, GandR, etc. The extension is securely attached. No glue. I don't care for the logo or the crazy cuts in the lever, but if you don;t like the idea of a bolted on BAD, then the Phase5 is your lever.
    No, the Phase 5 lever is NOT aluminum of any kind. It is steel, and welded to a bolt catch. You figure out the trick to tiggin aluminum to steel, you let me know so I can make some bank in the welding world.

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    I've never thought about trying any of them besides the BAD Lever. With a one piece design this probably wouldn't have happened. But hey, this was a one in a million incident and I imagine it's very unlikely that it could happen again.

    I'll keep on using them as long as they continue to benefit me. Most of the time I don't use it for a bolt release, I just use it to hold the bolt open. I have many rounds downrange with these on my guns and the gun has hit the ground more than a few times before with no issues.

    This, and bending a dust cover on one of my Nighthawks have really been the only two major failures I've had (besides a couple cases stuck in the chamber of an out-of-spec gun) that impeded the function of the gun.

    I'll keep using them. Thanks to everyone that posted in this thread, the different opinions all gave me something to think about.

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    I've been thinking about getting the BAD lever for a while now but sometimes here of problems with them.

    My question is to those who use them and like it is.......do they work well with the VLTOR MUR upper or do they only work well with a standard upper receiver?

    (I think I recall hearing they had problems when using them with the MUR)

    Anyone use one with a MUR without any problems?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonconsiglio View Post
    I've never thought about trying any of them besides the BAD Lever. With a one piece design this probably wouldn't have happened. But hey, this was a one in a million incident and I imagine it's very unlikely that it could happen again.

    I'll keep on using them as long as they continue to benefit me. Most of the time I don't use it for a bolt release, I just use it to hold the bolt open. I have many rounds downrange with these on my guns and the gun has hit the ground more than a few times before with no issues.

    This, and bending a dust cover on one of my Nighthawks have really been the only two major failures I've had (besides a couple cases stuck in the chamber of an out-of-spec gun) that impeded the function of the gun.

    I'll keep using them. Thanks to everyone that posted in this thread, the different opinions all gave me something to think about.

    Jonathan
    So are you saying that you don't always use the BAD lever to release the bolt after a magazine reload? Just wondering.

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    I would much rather see the BAD break then the bolt release. I also hate the torx and wish it had a larger flat head.

    But these things are also why I have started some builds with the one piece units

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    Quote Originally Posted by west9883 View Post
    So are you saying that you don't always use the BAD lever to release the bolt after a magazine reload? Just wondering.
    Right. After a reload, I still try to use the paddle to release the bolt even though I have the BAD Levers on all my guns. I use it primarily to lock the bolt open.

    I noticed myself trying to release the bolt with a BAD Lever on a friend's AR that wasn't there. I really don't notice a difference in speed from the paddle to the BAD Lever for reloads. Often I do a tac reload anyway, so I decided to stop using it for reloads.

    Now, for me at least, having muscle memory for holding the bolt open with the BAD is a little different. It's already a longer process, so having to think to go to the bolt catch itself when there's no lever isn't that big of a deal, if that makes sense. So, I guess I only use the BAD for half of its intended purpose.

    Jonathan

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    Quote Originally Posted by eternal24k View Post
    I would much rather see the BAD break then the bolt release. I also hate the torx and wish it had a larger flat head.

    But these things are also why I have started some builds with the one piece units
    I would as well. I hate the little torx screw. I think they should always be a little bigger. Yesterday I got a Bad-ASS selector in and put it on one of my SR15's. When I went to take the little screw out on the support side, it wouldn't budge and ended up stripping two of my very small allen wrenches. I used a heat gun and it still wouldn't go. I don't know what was done to it differently that the other one. Anyway, I had to cut that side off with a Dremel, it was terrible. Had it been a lager head size, I don't know if I still would have had to cut it off.

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