Where Have The Good Men Gone?

[SteyrAUG]

Bitterness about how unfair marriage and divorce is from the male viewpoint is the #1 indicator that a male is actually a child in an adult body.

If you stick your dick in her, even once, a real man takes responsibility for her, the kids you make and any and all fallout from the failed relationship.

Too many so-called "men" are not smart, or mature enough to understand that. And if she turns out to be bat shit crazy, guess what? You're an idiot for having chosen to stick your dick in some bat shit crazy woman.

There isn't enough room on this forum to offer all the examples and reasons you are wrong.

Just like the serial killer who obtains his victims through various methods, many men end up victim to the wrong woman in a similar way.

My favorite single example came from when I used to do security clearance for government employees.

The guy who applied for the job was married for 5 years before his wife took interest in another man. Under the advice of her "friends" she filed for divorce and reported him for domestic violence which she was told would help her in the custody case. Basically the man's life was destroyed. He spent time in jail, lost his job and all his money was spent on legal defense fees.

He was lucky in that his ex wife finally admitted the truth after she was caught in a few lies. When he applied for the job he brought with him a letter written by his ex wife explaining how all the charges our background check would produce were false and that she lied in order to get a better custody arrangement.

For 5 years this man DID take responsibility for the woman he married. His only crime was not being as interesting as the "other guy" to a female who didn't accept anything close to the same responsibility to their marriage or children.

His days spent in jail can never be returned to him. His money spent in legal fees was never compensated. His job was lost and even with "the letter" a lot of employers take a "where there is smoke, there is fire" attitude when considering his employment. A couple people in his review had the opinion that he simply "got away with it." And probably the worst thing of all, despite all that, his ex wife has custody of the children and he pays her alimony and child support.

[RogerinTPA]

I don't see how having sex with a woman and supporting her for a few years makes her entitled to half my earnings/possessions when she didn't make much before I met her and being with me is an upgrade to her standard of living. I also am a firm believer in father's rights - something that is neglected in the extreme in this country.

Agreed. Ask Paul McCartney. That one legged chick to half his shit.

Frankly, I agree with the author.

In the society I was raised in, you became a man at the age of 13, to include the ability to drive, drink and own and dispose of property/run a business.

In that context, I am amazed how many so-called "men" continue to hang on to childhood way into their 30s and beyond.

And not just the abject pussies, either. The military and LEO are packed full of 8 year olds in grown up bodies who do not respect themselves or others. Especially women.

A man is someone who knows how to respect women, whether or not they respect themselves, and does not puss out and cry about how "unfair" the world is. A real man also takes full responsibility for his actions, no matter how "unfair" things get. Children live in the concept of "fair" and "unfair". Adults are the ones who understand that "fair" has nothing to do with it.

Agreed. The age of ascension used to be 18, now it's 40, in most cases.

Some of those bat shit crazy women hide their tendencies quite well, at least until they say "I do." Of course, we all know what the unspoken portion of that statement is.

That's what prenups are for. They all claim they don't want your money, but it's all about financial security for them, which means taking your money, by any means necessary. It's all tactical deception. All's fair in Love and War.

[wes007]

Frankly, I agree with the author.

In the society I was raised in, you became a man at the age of 13, to include the ability to drive, drink and own and dispose of property/run a business.

In that context, I am amazed how many so-called "men" continue to hang on to childhood way into their 30s and beyond.

And not just the abject pussies, either. The military and LEO are packed full of 8 year olds in grown up bodies who do not respect themselves or others. Especially women.

A man is someone who knows how to respect women, whether or not they respect themselves, and does not puss out and cry about how "unfair" the world is. A real man also takes full responsibility for his actions, no matter how "unfair" things get. Children live in the concept of "fair" and "unfair". Adults are the ones who understand that "fair" has nothing to do with it.

Fair and unfair have everything to do with it for their meaning stems from right and wrong. Our founding fathers wrote the constitution on fair and unfair principles and it seems as though we lost sight of this as a society. A real man questions everything first, makes a calculated decision, and then proceeds knowing the consequences. Failing to do so usually results in unfair consequences