Need Advice on a 12Ga Pump

[redfernsoljah]

I would recommend the remington 870 with some vang comp goodies.

IE oversized safety, side saddle, and ghost rings to start. This would give you an excellent platofrm without breaking the bank. Good luck..

[BIGWILL]

18" 870 xcs if you can find one

a set of ghost ring sights and a side saddle at the very least
vangcomped is deffinatly worth it if you wanna spend tho money

heatshield is a waste of money

[antlad]

18" 870 xcs if you can find one

a set of ghost ring sights and a side saddle at the very least
vangcomped is deffinatly worth it if you wanna spend tho money

heatshield is a waste of money

The XCS looks like a sweet gun. If I could find one I would probably spend the money as the trynite finish is just what I'm looking for.
I will be carrying the gun in everything from coastal salt environments to extreme arctic conditions.

Anyone have real world experience with this weapon? If it's anything like the XCR line of rifles then it must be an outstanding.

[redfernsoljah]

The XCS looks like a sweet gun. If I could find one I would probably spend the money as the trynite finish is just what I'm looking for.
I will be carrying the gun in everything from coastal salt environments to extreme arctic conditions.

Anyone have real world experience with this weapon? If it's anything like the XCR line of rifles then it must be an outstanding.

With the 870 yes I would put my life in its trust. The finish my opinion if you properly take care of your weapon I think it may be overkill. Unless you are on the next episode of cat shit one popping out of the marsh. Spend your hard earned money on ghost sights and a caddy kit. Properly wipe down your rifle in extreme conditions and you will be fine. This will allow you to start training with abili to quickly change loads between buck and slug and have the sights to be able to aim with both loads.

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[70extreme]

Just buy a box stock 18" Remington 870 Express. It is all you need. Replace the follower and mag spring with an heavy duty version.

You don't need heat shields, ghost ring sights, oversize safeties, midget stocks, side saddles, vang comp modifications, porting, or anything else.

The 870 is the most over accessorized gun on the planet.

[Travis B]

The 870 is the most over accessorized gun on the planet.

So too true

[ST911]

If you are looking at a Mossberg take a hard look at one of the 18" 590A1 SKUs. The bead sight model is a great one and the Bantum wood stock with Ghost Ring Sights (GRS) is a real sleeper in their line up.

Good advice here.

870P is the gold standard, but in a Mossberg, heed the above.

[70extreme]

There is no advantage in getting a Police model of the Remington 870.

1. The finish on the 870 express is fine.
2. The MIM extractor on the express is fine.
3. The plastic trigger guard on the express is superior to the Police.
4. They both have the same dog carrier spring now.

It is just marketing. You can almost buy 2 Express guns for one police.

[terrymo]

See if they rent shotguns to students in the course. If it is more than a one day course, ask if you can rent a Remington for the first half of the course and a Mossberg for the second half of the course. You can familiarize yourself with both weapons and make a more educated decision for yourself. The Remington vs Mossberg, 870 express vs 870p, bead sight vs ghost ring sight, and other related debates will continue eternally with many consumers defending what they have purchased or are most familiar with.

[TheGreenRanger24]

There is no advantage in getting a Police model of the Remington 870.

1. The finish on the 870 express is fine.
2. The MIM extractor on the express is fine.
3. The plastic trigger guard on the express is superior to the Police.
4. They both have the same dog carrier spring now.

It is just marketing. You can almost buy 2 Express guns for one police.

For someone considering an express, please read this post . . . https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=11636

. . . and this post again. https://www.m4carbine.net/showpost.p...92&postcount=5

If money is an issue, look for a wingmaster as you can sometimes find a good used one for the price of a new express. (I've seen some run for around $200 in my area, which is on par with an express.)

IMO (for what it's worth), if in doubt, buy the 870P. Run the class with it, see how you like it and what works for you, then go from there.