Yeah...It's Loaded...

**SteyrAUG** · 02-25-11, 13:59

Originally Posted by Gutshot John

To be honest that kind of reasoning is a bit self-serving. I would contend that it's the responsible exercise of 2a rights that will win the public over.

I've been around guns a good bit of my life, and I shoot regularly. I still feel a bit hinky when I see someone carry openly. I don't think they're crooks, I just question their judgment if not in the proper context.

If you're out ranging your spread, on a hunt or if you're attending a gun rights rally where everyone is OC, go for it. Walking around day to day with an AR slung over your shoulder or a han solo holster seems like you've either got a chip on your shoulder or giving the bad guys all the notice they need to ambush you. Neither seems like good judgment to me.

Just because you have the ability to do something, doesn't mean you always should.

There is both a deterrence factor and an inviting problems factor. There is no doubt they both exist and even LEOS have on occasion specifically been targeted for their weapons. I think the deference factor is greater simply because taking somebody for their gun is a big job and there are usually easier ways for criminals to get a gun with less risk to themselves. Obviously this requires some situational awareness for the armed individual, but so does driving your expensive car through the bad side of town.

And just because something might be a bad idea (for example: driving your expensive car through the bad side of town) doesn't mean you should lose your right to do so.

As for waling around with a slung AR, all I can think of is pictures of Switzerland where people are on bikes, shopping in the grocery store and basically walking around with slung SIG rifles. Of course the Swiss don't view rifles as "somehow bad."

**SteyrAUG** · 02-25-11, 14:03

Originally Posted by Littlelebowski

The article certainly was not professional. Boob shot over the pizza? Come on.

Dude, women have boobs. Sometimes they get in the picture.

Like guns, boobs are not inherently bad and don't need to be concealed or hidden (unless you are Muslim).

**Littlelebowski** · 02-25-11, 14:05

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

Dude, women have boobs. Sometimes they get in the picture.

Like guns, boobs are not inherently bad and don't need to be concealed or hidden (unless you are Muslim).

You know me better. As I mentioned earlier, it seemed more about eye candy. The article could have been much better than shots of her tits.

**SteyrAUG** · 02-25-11, 14:09

Originally Posted by Watrdawg

I'd agree that the pics ween't too bad except for the last woman. The boob shot had me looking for another one and then the last woman shows up and ruins it all

The article could have been a bit more professional. That probably would have had a better effect.

Tough crowd.

I'm happy with the fact that it wasn't a blatant hatchet job. After decades of negative press we finally get an article about normal people who carry guns which INCLUDES people the average American would find LIKABLE and some of you guys simply dismiss it as a fluff piece. I guess you'd be happier with articles about guns where they talk to some overweight, uneducated rednecks with focus on any possible fringe political or racial views.

I personally think Caitlin has just done more for the acceptance of gun rights in the minds of the average "undecided" American than 10 years worth of NRA mailers.

**chadbag** · 02-25-11, 14:12

Originally Posted by Littlelebowski

You know me better. As I mentioned earlier, it seemed more about eye candy. The article could have been much better than shots of her tits.

I don't see any boobs. A very small amount of cleavage perhaps.

**SteyrAUG** · 02-25-11, 14:17

Originally Posted by Littlelebowski

You know me better. As I mentioned earlier, it seemed more about eye candy. The article could have been much better than shots of her tits.

Honestly, I think the photo centers on the firearm and with the pizza included her boobs are simply there too. In light of what is seen in your average (non adult) magazine these days I don't find that picture in any way gratuitous beyond the fact that she is a reasonably attractive female and that is probably how she regularly dresses.

Now I agree they probably did deliberately choose to profile reasonably attractive people to show that not everyone with a gun is an overweight Republican make from GA. And I personally appreciate the promotion of the image that "Yes, even the cute chick you would date sometimes carries a defensive firearm because it is NORMAL."

Now IF they had fashion models posing with guns, THEN I'd agree with your assessment. But I don't think that is the case. They have chosen actual females who carry for personal defense and in some cases they are cute and have boobs, just like every other female.

**11B101ABN** · 02-25-11, 14:45

When the OC "movement" begins to publicly bitch slap those morons that troll for a negative, or otherwise disagreeable LE response, I will view them with less cynicism, and unitl the "hey look at me" vibe diminishes, Ill have trouble digesting it.

**Honu** · 02-25-11, 15:07

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

Now I agree they probably did deliberately choose to profile reasonably attractive people to show that not everyone with a gun is an overweight Republican make from GA. And I personally appreciate the promotion of the image that "Yes, even the cute chick you would date sometimes carries a defensive firearm because it is NORMAL."

this was my exact thought they showed a range of people ?
the first gal looks like a lot of my buds wifes ?
the second seems a little more of the hottie family
the 3rd is the gal that is overweight

but not uncommon to see any of these gals when you go out ?

they are a cross section if you went out to the mall or a days shopping you would run across a section of these people just every day people