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    Who makes the barrel? Why did you select this option instead of a BCM or even DD?

    Quote Originally Posted by philipeggo View Post
    No problem , Its a 16" carbine length gas system . YHM front sight gas block , no bolt carrier because i didnt want one (buying a BCM or a failzero) . Keith from AA was excellent to deal with and the price was comparable/not that much more than BCM. Before i went to AA i called spikes since they are local but neither the message i left nor the email i sent was returned so i went with AA. Yea I figured as much thankfully my local class 3 is a good guy and said he'd do it for a few bucks. I do however plan on sitting in and watching just so i can see whats involved.



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    I'll dispute that. Especially having seen and read the kinds of issues people have had on this site and other places.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBuckeye View Post
    I built my first lower with a pair of channel locks while lying in bed watching how to videos on YouTube.....it is not nearly as hard as it looks..



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    Hey!

    My two cents is as follows: If you're seriously questioning this issue, then maybe you'd better find someone that can do it for you. I respect that you're not so egotistical that you'd go and try something you're not sure of, maybe messing something up in the process, THEN asking for help. WTG!

    Evil Bert pointed out the tools that you'd need to assemble the lower. It's pretty straightforward for the most part, but the challenging areas are the trigger guard roll pin (make sure everything's supported - you don't want to break a tab off), the front takedown pin spring and detent (be careful or that bastard will fly across the room never to be found again), and the bolt catch roll pin (you don't want to mar the side of your lower).

    In addition to what Evil Bert suggested, you'd want a set of regular drift punches too.

    These tools are a good investment, as no doubt the AR bug has bitten you and this won't be the last AR you put together.

    Iraqgunz pointed out that you may need to remove the front sight block, gas tube, and barrel nut. This is a little more advanced smithing. For that you'll need an armorer's wrench, receiver vise block and insert (this kit includes the bolt catch punch that Evil Bert was talking about):

    http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4...TICAL_TOOL_KIT

    plus Brownells Front Sight Bench Block (not mandatory but it makes life waaaay easier):

    http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=2...HT_BENCH_BLOCK

    and you're going to be needing a very solidly mounted vise.

    IG cautioned you about if you don't have the right tools and knowledge you shouldn't attempt it. He's 110% right on that. Please keep that in mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Who makes the barrel? Why did you select this option instead of a BCM or even DD?

    I believe all their barrels are sourced from DD. Thats a good question and one i dont have a great answer to. I heard good things, talked to the owner,looked at the specs and jumped.AA had everything i needed and were great to deal with. Like i said spikes was my first choice since they are local but they never got back to me so i went a different route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cat View Post
    Hey!

    My two cents is as follows: If you're seriously questioning this issue, then maybe you'd better find someone that can do it for you. I respect that you're not so egotistical that you'd go and try something you're not sure of, maybe messing something up in the process, THEN asking for help. WTG!

    Evil Bert pointed out the tools that you'd need to assemble the lower. It's pretty straightforward for the most part, but the challenging areas are the trigger guard roll pin (make sure everything's supported - you don't want to break a tab off), the front takedown pin spring and detent (be careful or that bastard will fly across the room never to be found again), and the bolt catch roll pin (you don't want to mar the side of your lower).

    In addition to what Evil Bert suggested, you'd want a set of regular drift punches too.

    These tools are a good investment, as no doubt the AR bug has bitten you and this won't be the last AR you put together.

    Iraqgunz pointed out that you may need to remove the front sight block, gas tube, and barrel nut. This is a little more advanced smithing. For that you'll need an armorer's wrench, receiver vise block and insert (this kit includes the bolt catch punch that Evil Bert was talking about):

    http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4...TICAL_TOOL_KIT

    plus Brownells Front Sight Bench Block (not mandatory but it makes life waaaay easier):

    http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=2...HT_BENCH_BLOCK

    and you're going to be needing a very solidly mounted vise.

    IG cautioned you about if you don't have the right tools and knowledge you shouldn't attempt it. He's 110% right on that. Please keep that in mind
    Thanks for the support, I think i will invest in a good set of tools because as you pointed out the bug has bitten me and i have an extra lower just sitting there staring at me. It says "Please register me as an SBR and give me a 11.5in barrel" and who am i to deny my lower this simple pleasure. The other problem is my lack of space. vices and what not require a work area that i dont have but thankfully my local class 3 is a good guy who doesn't rape me with prices so he volunteered his services.

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    Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to tear you down. Just trying to make sense of the purchase since you aren't 100% sure about all their parts and you claimed it was slightly more costly then a BCM.

    Is there a reason why you didn't get a complete BCM upper?

    Quote Originally Posted by philipeggo View Post
    I believe all their barrels are sourced from DD. Thats a good question and one i dont have a great answer to. I heard good things, talked to the owner,looked at the specs and jumped.AA had everything i needed and were great to deal with. Like i said spikes was my first choice since they are local but they never got back to me so i went a different route.



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    I don't know how tight space is, but Harbor Freight has a couple of work benches worth looking into- http://www.harborfreight.com/garage-shop/workbench.html

    I bought the 60" Hardwood Workbench with 4 Drawers which fit in our apartment and is surprisingly sturdy. I used the clamp to hold a barrel vise to install Fal barrel. Unfortunately, I had to leave it behind when we moved from the east coast to the west. I do plan to get another

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to tear you down. Just trying to make sense of the purchase since you aren't 100% sure about all their parts and you claimed it was slightly more costly then a BCM.

    Is there a reason why you didn't get a complete BCM upper?
    None other than im a support the little guy type of person , as long as they produce good stuff of course. Of which i have every indication that they do. I know your not so no worries. Keith (the owner) was great to work with and i have no qualms abut buying from him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    I don't know how tight space is, but Harbor Freight has a couple of work benches worth looking into- http://www.harborfreight.com/garage-shop/workbench.html

    I bought the 60" Hardwood Workbench with 4 Drawers which fit in our apartment and is surprisingly sturdy. I used the clamp to hold a barrel vise to install Fal barrel. Unfortunately, I had to leave it behind when we moved from the east coast to the west. I do plan to get another
    People actually buy stuff from there? J/K i get the catalog all the time i just never ordered from there. Im moving (hopefully) soon so i dont want to buy one now and then find out i don't have space for it later. damn you small ,but cheap college apts! but i will keep it in mind, if i have a patio/porch where im going that prob wouldn't be a bad idea.
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    I found these youtube videos from M4C member "Surf" to be helpful.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAQKaDb80H4

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