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    I must not know what the hell I am doing because I like a single stage on an up close fighting rifle and don't benefit from my Geissele.

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    A good, commercial single-stage trigger or tuned M16A1 trigger will meet the requirements of 95% of all Soldiers issued an M16A2/4 or M4.
    Most folks will never, ever take a shot past 200 yards, period.

    If you never have to take a long shot you'll never need a good trigger.


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    So that RRA NM 2 stage trigger I just bought is a bunch of junk?

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    I have a Rock River NM rifle and love the trigger. I just bought another NM two-stage for a build. Of course, I'm not in battle every day.
    Last edited by darr3239; 03-06-11 at 01:25.

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    Commercial two-stage triggers that lose their adjustment, plain go out or go away after a few hundred to a few thousand rounds, or that have to be replaced at every barrel change are unsat and can get you killed.
    If you're not going into combat or a cop worried about return fire you'll never have to worry about your trigger. It's a hobby or a toy. Pick up the phone, 1-800- bitch to customer service, get it fixed/DX'ed/changed-replaced, whatever.

    If you are deployed away from the continental United States and anything you have goes unserviceable and has to be replaced by the system choose wisely.

    If you're a leg GI that means you get a new 3-round burst trigger with all the crap that comes with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinister View Post

    Those who know what the hell they're doing will benefit from a good two-stage trigger...
    sinister, this is very interesting. can you explain a little more?
    never push a wrench...

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    Define your problem / requirement

    If a shooter will never shoot past 100 or 200 yards; likes to shoot fast and close; and is shooting at targets the likes and sizes of IPSC or E-type silhouettes (practicing for the day some uninvited knucklehead is in your home) he may never need a trigger that costs an additional $170 to $300 -- for a precision capability he won't or can't use or benefit from, nor have a likely need for.

    The fact this is a thread tells me people may be interested in the capability, are curious to know if a two-stage might help them, and are wavering on whether or not the extra cash is worth it.

    If your defense, sporting, or hobby use does not justify the cost I'd recommend you buy more ammo and practice. How much ammo can you buy in place of the trigger? Most will feel better in the end.

    ...RRA NM 2 stage trigger ...
    By definition, NM stands for National Match -- a precision application some may never have a need or use for. The National Match Course calls for precision at 200, 300, and 600 yards with iron sights -- not a great big chest at 7 to 25 feet in your living room or down your main hallway.

    If you're trying to bust groundhogs, praire dogs, or Hajji sticking his head 'round a corner or boulder you might want a clean breaking trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSrt4 View Post
    So that RRA NM 2 stage trigger I just bought is a bunch of junk?

    Not junk, just not appropriate for a patrol rifle, in my opinion. A patrol rifle in reality is a 100 yard and in gun, no real need for the added precision. What is needed, is an ultra-reliable gun, that is capable of minute-of-man.

    The RRA NM 2-stage triggers are decent and accurate triggers. They are not, however, nearly as robust as as a mil-spec single stage. The two I've seen fail, had the hammer break clean in half on each. So for a patrol rifle, most average users are better served with a single stage, which is less likely to break.

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    ...and THAT, Sir, is a winner!

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    The RRA triggers are junk. They have to account for at least 3/4ths of the "my trigger broke" stories online. They give the good reliable 2 stage triggers a bad name by association.

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