I must not know what the hell I am doing because I like a single stage on an up close fighting rifle and don't benefit from my Geissele.![]()
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I must not know what the hell I am doing because I like a single stage on an up close fighting rifle and don't benefit from my Geissele.![]()
Most folks will never, ever take a shot past 200 yards, period.A good, commercial single-stage trigger or tuned M16A1 trigger will meet the requirements of 95% of all Soldiers issued an M16A2/4 or M4.
If you never have to take a long shot you'll never need a good trigger.
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So that RRA NM 2 stage trigger I just bought is a bunch of junk?
I have a Rock River NM rifle and love the trigger. I just bought another NM two-stage for a build. Of course, I'm not in battle every day.
Last edited by darr3239; 03-06-11 at 01:25.
If you're not going into combat or a cop worried about return fire you'll never have to worry about your trigger. It's a hobby or a toy. Pick up the phone, 1-800- bitch to customer service, get it fixed/DX'ed/changed-replaced, whatever.Commercial two-stage triggers that lose their adjustment, plain go out or go away after a few hundred to a few thousand rounds, or that have to be replaced at every barrel change are unsat and can get you killed.
If you are deployed away from the continental United States and anything you have goes unserviceable and has to be replaced by the system choose wisely.
If you're a leg GI that means you get a new 3-round burst trigger with all the crap that comes with it.
If a shooter will never shoot past 100 or 200 yards; likes to shoot fast and close; and is shooting at targets the likes and sizes of IPSC or E-type silhouettes (practicing for the day some uninvited knucklehead is in your home) he may never need a trigger that costs an additional $170 to $300 -- for a precision capability he won't or can't use or benefit from, nor have a likely need for.
The fact this is a thread tells me people may be interested in the capability, are curious to know if a two-stage might help them, and are wavering on whether or not the extra cash is worth it.
If your defense, sporting, or hobby use does not justify the cost I'd recommend you buy more ammo and practice. How much ammo can you buy in place of the trigger? Most will feel better in the end.
By definition, NM stands for National Match -- a precision application some may never have a need or use for. The National Match Course calls for precision at 200, 300, and 600 yards with iron sights -- not a great big chest at 7 to 25 feet in your living room or down your main hallway....RRA NM 2 stage trigger ...
If you're trying to bust groundhogs, praire dogs, or Hajji sticking his head 'round a corner or boulder you might want a clean breaking trigger.
Not junk, just not appropriate for a patrol rifle, in my opinion. A patrol rifle in reality is a 100 yard and in gun, no real need for the added precision. What is needed, is an ultra-reliable gun, that is capable of minute-of-man.
The RRA NM 2-stage triggers are decent and accurate triggers. They are not, however, nearly as robust as as a mil-spec single stage. The two I've seen fail, had the hammer break clean in half on each. So for a patrol rifle, most average users are better served with a single stage, which is less likely to break.
...and THAT, Sir, is a winner!
The RRA triggers are junk. They have to account for at least 3/4ths of the "my trigger broke" stories online. They give the good reliable 2 stage triggers a bad name by association.
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