Haha, not surprising that Olympic is declining participation. They must hate this chart more than anyone.
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Haha, not surprising that Olympic is declining participation. They must hate this chart more than anyone.
Between two groups of people who want to make inconsistent kinds of worlds, I see no remedy but force. - Oliver Wendell Holmes.
Official and complete Olympic Arms reply, and all they officially authorize me to include.
“For more details Olympic Arms welcomes all inquiries made directly to the manufacturer at 800-228-3471”.
I suppose it was only a matter of time before someone decided to become legalese-ally hostile regarding this issue. It's unfortunate that some people want to play that way, but understandable given the source.
The way I read the situation is that some would rather be in control of how they spin their answers than be confronted with having to clearly state yes or no. They would not even entertain looking at the questionnaire in any way shape or form.
As Pat Rogers says "those not required to hold to a standard, rarely do".
It almost as if the breakdown of the original chart roughly correlates to there mfg responses to rev 2--those with "good quality" (as a rough approximation) seem to be more than happy to reply to information and those with "sub quality" seem to want to give the run around.
In retrospect I shouldn't have expected anything different.
Now, for example, one manufacturer is even "requiring" that I remove all mention of them from the old Chart.
it really was only a matter of time.
Hopefully people will take the time to read the EofF, and the new expanded EofF when it's released, and educate themselves to the point that they can ask the hard questions and sniff the answers they get when they call the manufacturers directly. That way when they ask "are your barrels all MPI?" and the answer they get is "yes, our raw barrel steel is MPI" they will understand that this is meaningless and be able to ask about how one would go about HPT-ing the raw steel...![]()
In today's world one of the best things you can do for your child; Get them in Scouting, stay with them in the program, and encourage them to stay in.
That's a wise decision. Depending on the position of their legal team they could claim libel and sue for damages if provoked. Of course they will need to submit evidence on why the information on the chart is false and how it caused damages, like lost sales. They may never be able to prove this but I'm assuming the company has deeper pockets than you, meaning they can afford an expensive lawsuit even if they lose.
That's also food for thought regarding Smith and Wesson. Their marketing and legal teams are weighing the risks of giving out additional information regarding their products. Not so much in the sense of libel but how much risk would they be in if their product failed injuring someone and that person's attorney used the chart to the cause of the failure and sue for damages. The attorney would most likely take the stance that Smith is knowingly negligent in poor manufacturing techniques leading to an unsafe product. Smith cannot deny their manufacturing techniques since they gave the information to you. Again this could easily be solved by increasing their quality processes which will increase the manufacturing costs of the product. This is where marketing comes in. Marketing will evaluate the equity of their brand and whether they can withstand price increases.
Sorry for the rambling but I wanted to give another perspective regarding a company's participation in the chart.
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