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    Local gun stores have a rough time of it. One small shop just had to stop carrying guns, because he's not big enough to buy enough guns to get better pricing with a lot of companies. People go to a big store 45 minutes away to save $30, where you can hardly get an employee to talk to you without waving money in the air. Some of their flyers advertise prices that he can't buy guns for, let alone figure in any kind of profit. So now if you want a gun from him he has to order it in, which is basically where I was at before with him.

    It makes me want to open a small gun store that primarily deals with online sales and keep a small storefront, but I don't think I'd make enough money in the area to justify a retail location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistoGators View Post
    Not a gun shop, but gun shows are even worse. I went to a huge one today in the Atlanta area. Someone had quite a few orc DPMS rifles for $700 - or as they put it, "Colt quality at half the price".
    There's a big gun show going on here in Wichita this weekend; I went yesterday and walked out with 500 rds of Brown bear ($85) and a DD BCG ($130). It's been hit or miss lately at the gun shows from what I've seen. Of course there's the dealers that are peddling DPMS for out the ass prices but then there's also the guys that know M16 bolt carriers don't require a class 3 license, that's who I look for. One gentleman even mentioned the chart yesterday, I bought the DD BCG from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cesiumsponge View Post
    "Buy once, cry once" is usually a lesson forged by pain, headache, and remorse. Certain things aren't worth fussing a few bucks over but most folks abide by instant gratification.
    I'm going to have to use this. After reading through this thread and posting a few commits it has me thinking. I run a custom shower door company and had a call yesterday. The lady says she went to HD and they quoted her a price and now she's looking for something "cheaper". This word really pisses me off. She said it again and I almost hung up. I've leaned that the cheap customers are a pain in the ass and usually not worth it. "You see, lady, cheap isn't quality and quality isn't cheap." The best part about owning a business is that you can fire your customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistoGators View Post
    Not a gun shop, but gun shows are even worse. I went to a huge one today in the Atlanta area. Someone had quite a few orc DPMS rifles for $700 - or as they put it, "Colt quality at half the price".
    Well, they got it half right.

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    I helped run a gunshop years ago and the only reason we sold new guns was for trading. With guns, we made the bulk of our money on used guns and used scopes. I walked-in to gun shows just to buy guns and would always come back with 8-10.

    Accessories (cleaning, mounts, scopes, slings, etc.) were our biggest money maker. It was a simple adage – “there were more people with $5 in their pocket than $20, more people with $20 than $100,…”, so we tried to make it where if you came in the shop there was something you "needed" that you could afford.

    As a “gun shop”, I think Cabelas is pretty crummy. I have more cleaning variety in my work shop than they do. They have $20,000 guns but a Mickey-Mouse assortment of gun cleaning supplies. For their size, Wal-Mart has a better selection…and I hate WM.

    But maybe it's just me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBelly View Post
    There's one on Academy?

    I was talking about the one that charges $1200 for a Bush XM15, located on Fountain Blvd.

    Here's the attitude that I heard today from one of their employees:

    Customer (not me): I'm really just looking for a cheap set of BUIS.

    Employee: What you see is what we got. (employee just walks away at this point)

    I see all kinds of BUIS behind the glass, so I tell the guy a little about the different brands, and then I notice that the Magpul MBUS has a sticker saying $79 for the rear only.

    I understand mark-up, profit margins, and overhead. I also understand about charging what people will pay. Because I understand these concepts, I actually shop elsewhere.
    Oh youre right. Thats my bad. The huge place right? Ya I have only been a few times. Its right off south academy kinda? Anyway were talkin about the same place. A few weeks ago when I was tryin to get the Troy rail, I was gonna buy another Troy folding sight...but not for $170. Thats a little ridiculous. And that was after me and a friend waited for 20 minutes for help.
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    I have ONE shop i go to, which also happens to be an indoor pistol range. SOME of the employees are up to speed on stuff...most are not. Like the two that told me the green tipped x-tac pmc i bought WASNT steel cored....ya right..me = "you sure this isnt m855 stuff?, most green tipped stuff is penetrator ammo.." lol.

    I basically go in there for pmags and shooting.

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    An example of what I was talking about previously in this thread is that I recently went to a local place to look at AR sights. While I was there I was quoted a price of $150 for a rear sight from a brand that shall remain anonymous. For $110 I can buy the SAME sight directly from the manufacturer. For $195 I can buy the front and rear together from the manufacturer. I can buy the same sight set (front AND rear) for $180 from Spikes Tactical (if I don't mind the Spikes logo being on them). There's another local dealer that has a different brand of sights "on sale" and their sale price is MSRP. The non-sale price is about $30 higher.

    Having said all that, I must point out that I'm all for supporting my local businesses. In fact I would rather buy locally. I would get to inspect the item before purchase, I wouldn't have to wait for it to come in the mail, and it would be much simpler to return it if there was an issue with it. I also wouldn't mind paying a few more dollars over internet pricing to buy locally. However, when the price differences are like those noted above, how could anyone who bothers to do any research bring themselves to buy anywhere but online?
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    The part about the whole thing is that when a manufacturer shows their suggested MSRP on their website/brochure/whatever, they are charging the local gun shop less than that. The MSRP already has the profit built in. A LGS here in my area told me they needed to cover their overhead ABOVE the MSRP.


    I think they have too high of an overhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoryCop25 View Post
    I believe all of us here are "gun snobs". We are the minority! I spend half of my day at the shop explaining why the Taurus Judge is NOT the best personal defense handgun and the other half explaining why Bushmaster is NOT a real AR. People look at me like I'm speaking in tongues. I guarantee that if I put a complete BCM next to a Shrubmaster most people would buy the Bushmaster. My boss stocks what people ask for. He knows that it is inferior but it's what sells.
    you are 100% right. i work in a gun shop in a smaller area, the expensive stuff just sits and collects dust. we have tried to educate, i recommend this site before i sell an AR, but no matter what the bad stuff sells. if i had a dollar for every time a guy saw the AR's on the shelf and said "what the hell would you do with that?" i could afford to buy two of just about any brand rifle. all gunshops arent bad, i work for one that is just pushed around by demand.

    i am ordering an LWRC M6A2 and the customer that was there when i placed the order just about shit his pants at the price, and then tried to talk me into his old DPMS....i said very politely, if i wanted a piece of shit, i would have made one out of the taco bell i had for lunch
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