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Thread: Vltor A5 EMOD on a 14.5" middy???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtyboy333 View Post
    Anybody here have an A5 on a 16" DD CHF carbine gas gun??? Reason i ask is because i want to know what Vltor buffer your using. Those things are pretty expensive.

    If i feel the carrier is still moving too fast with the stock A5 buffer it would probably be counterproductive to experiment with a standard H2/H3 in the A5 system, wouldn't it?
    Hold on man, don't put a regular carbine length H2 or H3 buffer in an A5 receiver extension!!!! Bad things will happen.

    Earlier in this or another post I used terminology that may have misled you; in a trial I conducted with home made reduced mass A5 buffers I called the regular weight A5 buffer an H2 because like the carbine gas system H2 it also has two heavy tungsten buffers. I referred to the light ones I fashioned as H1 and H0. A factory Vltor H3 and H4 have three and four heavy tungsten weights respectively.
    A carbine length HX buffer in an A5 extension may result in the BCG jamming into the extension, possibly breaking it or hurting you!

    If you feel that your 16 inch carbine length barrel is over-gassed, the A5 system may be for you. Purchase the bare A5 tube, a standard rifle length spring, and a Vltor H4 buffer. Then swap out two of the tungsten weights for stainless ones from a carbine buffer. If you still feel the carrier is moving too fast then male an H3 or an H4 by replacing the tungsten weights back in.

    It is very likely that all you will need is an A5 with two tungsten weights, maybe three. In the interest of weak ammo compatibilty you should stick with the lightest weight buffer that will cycle your weakest ammo and hold the bolt back all the time. This is critical if you use the cheaper 223 loads out there.

    Do not put a short carbine length buffer in an A5 receiver extension!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mp43 View Post
    Hold on man, don't put a regular carbine length H2 or H3 buffer in an A5 receiver extension!!!! Bad things will happen.

    Earlier in this or another post I used terminology that may have misled you; in a trial I conducted with home made reduced mass A5 buffers I called the regular weight A5 buffer an H2 because like the carbine gas system H2 it also has two heavy tungsten buffers. I referred to the light ones I fashioned as H1 and H0. A factory Vltor H3 and H4 have three and four heavy tungsten weights respectively.
    A carbine length HX buffer in an A5 extension may result in the BCG jamming into the extension, possibly breaking it or hurting you!

    If you feel that your 16 inch carbine length barrel is over-gassed, the A5 system may be for you. Purchase the bare A5 tube, a standard rifle length spring, and a Vltor H4 buffer. Then swap out two of the tungsten weights for stainless ones from a carbine buffer. If you still feel the carrier is moving too fast then male an H3 or an H4 by replacing the tungsten weights back in.

    It is very likely that all you will need is an A5 with two tungsten weights, maybe three. In the interest of weak ammo compatibilty you should stick with the lightest weight buffer that will cycle your weakest ammo and hold the bolt back all the time. This is critical if you use the cheaper 223 loads out there.

    Do not put a short carbine length buffer in an A5 receiver extension!!!
    Thanks for the reply. I too have made my own weight buffers by buying an H3 and using the tungsten weights to whip up what i needed so i understand what your saying. The difference was that they were the standard buffers with 3 weights. Ive never seen a A5 buffer but its nice to know that the standard buffer that comes in the kit has 2 of 4 tungsten.

    I would purchase the parts that you recommended but i think i would save more money just buying the whole kit together considering i want the Emod stock with it.

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    I agree.
    The standard A5 buffer that comes with the Emod kit should be fine with your 16 in carbine.

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    Will the standard A5 buffer work well with a DD 16" LW middy setup? I'm considering that setup for my next build and would appreciate any info here.

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    I put together a BCM LW 16'' middy a couple of months back and I installed a Vltor A5 on it. Absolutely no issues with it at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyfire1201 View Post
    Will the standard A5 buffer work well with a DD 16" LW middy setup? I'm considering that setup for my next build and would appreciate any info here.



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    I put an A5 on my BCM 16" mid-length, BFH LW gun with BC 1.0 and the combination has made my gun feel like a .22 LR. The only times I had any extraction or cycling issues was with wolf 55gr. Once I got through that crap and used some better ammo(Black Hills, Hornady and PMC X-Tac) it has been flawless.

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