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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Here's a thinker who rubber coated his AR.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...f=118&t=530781
    What makes it even better is that no one even remotely starts to raise an eyebrow at it until halfway through the first page.
    "It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner."

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    As new guy, I want to mention that there is an educational quality to these kinds of threads.

    Not that I'd do any stupid shit to my own guns out of my own accord. Usually, when I don't know something---I ask someone who might. It's a very simple concept really. Surprised some of these individuals can't fathom that.

    I just loved that rubber coated AR on the other thread.

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    I am amazed at the people who think that with their limited experience they can come up with some new design wrinkle or build shortcut that exceeds factory or military specifications, and then they can't wait to log in to some forum and tell the entire world that they singlehandedly came up with a secret piece of knowledge that not even Gene Stoner, or Mikhail Kalashnikov, or John Browning, or Gaston Glock thought of.

    I remember reading a "tutorial" that someone wrote on another forum for doing a screw build of an AK. He went to great lengths to type a long disclaimer to protect the website from "liability".

    A few minutes later the moderators deleted his entire tutorial and typed the one-phrase response: "Liability problem solved."

    I still laugh at that one.

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    The rubberized grip... I MIGHT be able to understand that one. The rest is just a massive why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rider79 View Post
    What makes it even better is that no one even remotely starts to raise an eyebrow at it until halfway through the first page.
    I know. It seems every stupid thing that comes up, the first few posts are "great idea!" or "way to think out of the box!". Even when someone finally does say how wrong it is, they don't usually want to hear it. There's a big difference between educating the ignorant and educating the stupid. Some just don't get it.
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    The rubber guy should know better............. he should have used truck bedliner.

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    Got your rubbers Mr. Hooper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rider79 View Post
    What makes it even better is that no one even remotely starts to raise an eyebrow at it until halfway through the first page.
    I don't think the guys with knowledge bother anymore. I saw one of the familiar names bickering with a staff member about a big brain drain, or exodus of knowledge that happened recently.

    Apparently a bunch of the members with actual knowledge were either kicked off or quit posting on their own.

    If you hurt stupid peoples' feelings over there.. you won't last long because that's their bread and butter.... and that's where the dollars are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    You can't be serious?
    I had asked:
    "I used to have an Ameetec complete lower built like that. (Got it for a great price.) It looks ugly but I couldn't see that it harmed anything. What is the harm from this bubba type approach?"

    I am actually serious. Yes, I realize that this is the wrong way to assemble it. Yes, I'm aware that Ameetec was a low-end garage assembler type company. However, what is the actual harm from this bubba approach? Let's analyze:

    1) Does it weaken the buffer tube?
    >> Not that I can see. Maybe if you manage to put a notch into it while grinding, which could be a stress raiser and conceivably make the tube more likely to crack. You'd have to be sub-bubba to screw up that badly though.

    2) Does it weaken the buffer tube/receiver interface?
    >> If anything it seems like it would strengthen it, since slightly more threads are into the receiver.

    3) Does it cause malfunctions?
    >> In theory it might, since it alters the useable length of the buffer tube. But the lower I had that was made this way worked just fine with several different uppers.

    4) Does it cause other problems?
    >> ?

    Let me repeat, I know this is the wrong to assemble the buffer tube onto the receiver, and I know Ameetec was a low-end brand (which I bought long before I knew anything). I won't be hurt if someone tells me five different ways in which this approach does actually cause problems. But I would seriously like to know what those five (?) different problems are.

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    SomeOtherGuy,

    Well, my guess is that by shortening the Reciever Extension you run the risk of heavier bounce back, at the very least. The buffer in a carbine RE already pretty much smacks the back of the tube, if it happens sooner, it could bounce back harder, causing a malfunction.

    It might not seem like much, but for example the A5 RE, which is 3/4" longer, but also has a longer buffer, eliminates the buffer contacting the rear of the Reciever Extension. Sure, the spring plays a part in this too, but that little bit extra length helps. Incremental changes in length will play a larger role than many would guess in proper operation. so, 1/8 of an inch may just add enough speed on the return of the bolt to cause a malfunction. Maybe not, but why risk it.

    Also, if you wear off anodizing, the aluminum is still strong as it's deeper than the surface. If you cut into that, it's now much softer and risks wearing sooner. It's a bad thing all around.
    Last edited by jonconsiglio; 03-16-11 at 17:05.

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