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    Quote Originally Posted by boltcatch View Post
    Being an idiot isn't that big of a deal when you know you're an idiot. It starts becoming a problem when you think you know all sorts of things. I think we're rapidly becoming a nation of illiterate, innumerate incompetents who couldn't critically think their way out of a wet paper bag.

    Maybe we need to release a bunch of tigers or something. That would fix the problem with a quickness.
    I remember reading where someone stated that 80% of the population were functioning idiots.


    I tend to agree with this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    I'm referring to the pin that holds the magazine release in place. I started with a standard length punch and put a couple of pecker tracks on the lower. I switched to a brass punch with a much longer reach and the pin installation went smoother and with no more owner inflicted blems. I should have used the long punch to begin with
    Are you talking about the actual magazine catch that you screw into the magazine release button?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miamitj View Post
    When a company did not want to sell a product because they repeadidly claim, in writing, it's too dangerous to put in the hands of civilians, I think it deserves a post. I know I would like to know if a company I'm buying from supports my 2A rights.
    The person you were speaking to (Tim R.) is an inside sales rep (nothing more). He is NOT the official spokesman for KAC. So when you say that "THEY SAID", you need to be careful as I am betting that he does not speak for the company.

    Your post was in 2008. At that time, that gun had just started to see the light of day. There was probably about 3 of them in the world.

    So you were upset about the fact that you couldn't buy a gun (which would have cost you $40K) that didn't have any mags for ammo for it. Right.

    In case you were not aware, there are ammo and guns that companies make that they WON'T SELL YOU. Why? Because they don't know what you would do with it.
    As an FFL dealer, I have declined the sale of firearms and ammo to people that I did not trust. Did I stomp their 2A rights? Yep and am glad I did.

    Let me make it a little more clear for you. Aimpoint and Trijicon (for instance) make optics and lasers that they won't sell to you or me. Why? Because I might be able to look around a corner, see in the dark or burn someones eyes out without them knowing it. Keep in mind, I am trusted with machine guns and suppressors (C3 Dealer), but cannot have certain optics or IR laser.

    Should I start a rant about the fact that these two companies won't sell me something that they (or the Govt) has chosen to restrict? No. Why? Because it is foolish and a 100% waste of time.

    Do you really think if the post was about Spikes versus KAC it would of been deleted?
    This thread isn't about Spikes. It is about the moron that took a grinder to his RE. It just so happens that the product he did the grinding on was a ST RE.


    Yes I know KAC has changed opinion since ...

    Right you are! https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...&highlight=kac



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    Quote Originally Posted by durus5995 View Post
    Are you talking about the actual magazine catch that you screw into the magazine release button?
    He's *got* to be talking about the bolt catch.


    Which reminds me - me and a buddy went to a local GTG shoot involving people we met on a state gun forum. (Shadenfreude, if you're reading this, yeah, I'm going there.)
    Anyway, a guy had a frankengun AR that was malfunctioning rather often. The guy upon whose land we were shooting - and claimed to be an Army armorer - told the guy he'd be happy to fix the gun for him. Did he try fixing the problem by first trying a different mag from the ratty-assed one the shooter had? NO - he told the guy to come with him - they were going to the house where the 'armorer' was going to dremel some M4 Feed Ramps.
    The best part - get this - as they were walking away, Shadenfreude and I BOTH heard the 'armorer' say that if that didn't fix the problem, maybe the FIRING PIN SPRING WAS BAD!!!!
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    A discussion involving the gayest lubrication, pinkies, Popsicles, hammering balls and dripping guns, all in the same thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Would you please enlighten the rest of us as to what KAC would not sell you that was so dangerous? Did they actually state this or was this some conclusion you came up with?

    Is it because you live a communist state?
    I did not mention KAC in my original post, I only mentioned it after Grant mentioned the post dealt with them so how would I have taken a stab at them?

    A little reading comprehension from you and you can get the idea of what happened. I also clearly stated that the response from the vendor was in several different written documents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Would you care to enlighten us? I prefer that the OP do it since he took a stab at KAC, but I guess he doesn't want to.
    How about a little more than 22 minutes for a response before you get your panties in a wad? Some of us work. Definitely expected better from a "mod" of a sight that is suppose to be more enlightened than ARFCOM ... You are reacting like your from ARFCOM ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmguy View Post
    I know what you are talking about and I'll just caution that it may be a bit of a reach to take an e-mail from a sales guy and attribute that to be the view of the company. I understand he is functioning as a representative of the company; I get it, but nonetheless he was outside of his lane on that one.

    We are fortunate here to have multiple people from KAC whose opinions actually do matter...and the sentiments of that guy are not echoed with them.

    Just to put all possible bias on the table I was a KAC engineer at the time of that particular incident. I am not any longer.
    I agree with you. I did attempt to clarify this with other's at KAC and they never responded. Well they did not respond till my post here. All that needed to be done was clarification, and thats it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miamitj View Post
    I did not mention KAC in my original post, I only mentioned it after Grant mentioned the post dealt with them so how would I have taken a stab at them?

    A little reading comprehension from you and you can get the idea of what happened. I also clearly stated that the response from the vendor was in several different written documents.



    How about a little more than 22 minutes for a response before you get your panties in a wad? Some of us work. Definitely expected better from a "mod" of a sight that is suppose to be more enlightened than ARFCOM ... You are reacting like your from ARFCOM ...
    I did not realize IG was a moderator of optics! If you are going to piss in the wind, be sure to do so with all of your shit correct first.
    Last edited by jklaughrey; 03-18-11 at 10:55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jklaughrey View Post
    I did not realize IG was a moderator of optics!

    You, sir, win the WHOLE INTERNETS for the day!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSantoro View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    As an FFL dealer, I have declined the sale of firearms and ammo to people that I did not trust. Did I stomp their 2A rights? Yep and am glad I did.

    Grant, I agree with your post, but I must make a small clarification. You are a private dealer, so you may choose who to not deal with, that is your right, and your not selling to someone is not a violation of anyone's rights. The 2A has nothing to do with this, it is a recognition by our Bill of Rights that we are born with certain freedoms, and the govt shall protect these freedoms.

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