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    Yea, I found out the hard way about it. All FFL's charge it around here but I don't blame them. WA holds them responsible for the tax if it's not collected.

    What I really didn't like was how the FFL fee also jumped and not by a little bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoutfsu99 View Post
    Yea, I found out the hard way about it. All FFL's charge it around here but I don't blame them. WA holds them responsible for the tax if it's not collected.

    What I really didn't like was how the FFL fee also jumped and not by a little bit
    Some will charge you use tax on your shipping as well. And according to RCW code they can't charge use tax on the fees involved with transfer of a firearm, nor the NCIS check. So what they charge is a flat fee period. If they try to add that in call them on it. Also if no price is given, they have to contact the seller or use fair market value to ascertain proper taxable amount. You know they will always go for the higher amount.
    Here is the RCW write up.

    http://dor.wa.gov/Content/GetAFormOr...Transfers.aspx
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    Some FFL fees jumped to $75, most others to $50. I had another dealer send me a bill for a transfer he had done for me over a year and a half before. I laughed at him.

    One more week and then I'm popping smoke on this state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoutfsu99 View Post
    Some FFL fees jumped to $75, most others to $50. I had another dealer send me a bill for a transfer he had done for me over a year and a half before. I laughed at him.

    One more week and then I'm popping smoke on this state.
    Did you politely tell him to "**** OFF"! Thank God my FFL here only charges 15.00 for me and other LE he knows. Everyone else it is 25.00. Of course 25 is a steal compared to you "westies".
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    Well said Eric and when I get back out to Michigan, I will be looking you up again. It was nice meeting you at the show. Thanks again for letting me show my friends some of the AR functions and options up close and personal with the weapon you had on display.



    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow View Post
    If gun show vendors could afford to stock Wilson and Noveske rifles they would not be doing gun shows. Gun shows serve a great purpose on many fronts. There are plenty of people out there that like to do business in person rather than on the net. We have a very loyal customer base at the shows, and if anyone was smart here, they would get to know a dealer or two, buy a little something every show, and you may just get a high end rifle at a dirt cheap price.

    I do alot for my customers, and they know that I don't stock rifles that run me as a dealer 1,400.00, but my regulars know I will get them one cheap if they ask me. Again, many on here don't understand business when it comes to overhead, and demand. I stocked a few high end rifles (billboard guns) at shows, and ended up keeping them because I could not even get rid of them at my cost. I now build up high end guns from high end parts, saving me and the customer money.

    So get to know one of the guys like someone said on here that has a table or 3 and you might just find out that you have made a good friend in the firearms business that will sell you good gear at a discounted price.

    And what many of my customers say, they hit the shows to get long guns off the books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jklaughrey View Post
    Did you politely tell him to "**** OFF"! Thank God my FFL here only charges 15.00 for me and other LE he knows. Everyone else it is 25.00. Of course 25 is a steal compared to you "westies".


    A long time ago an FFL wanted 10% the value of the gun...in this case it was a $2500 Beretta 682X Gold Trap when I shot competition trap. Im sure you can do the math. Then they get to hold the gun for 10 days finger ****ing it (CA).


    So glad I don't live in CA or WA anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    A long time ago an FFL wanted 10% the value of the gun...in this case it was a $2500 Beretta 682X Gold Trap when I shot competition trap. Im sure you can do the math. Then they get to hold the gun for 10 days finger ****ing it (CA).


    So glad I don't live in CA or WA anymore...
    Holy crap o.O It's the same paperwork no matter how much the gun is.

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    It's kind of a mixed bag here in TX/Dallas. There are some deals to be had especially on handguns, but I also still see 1800 colt 'preban' rifles. I found a LMT 308 once but the dealer was too busy to give new the time of day. He had to talk ro his buddy instead. Another one caries them but after they switchef my right handed sling buffer plate for a lefty im not interested in doing business with them.

    Wasr aks at 600

    Everybody is pushing Kimber and XDs. I may get an XD at some point but the prices on those are getting bad. Glocks and SW can be had for a deal though. Ammos gone nuts. I have to go internet or the CtD store.
    Last edited by TXBob; 03-22-11 at 19:18.

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    Ouch

    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    A long time ago an FFL wanted 10% the value of the gun...in this case it was a $2500 Beretta 682X Gold Trap when I shot competition trap. Im sure you can do the math. Then they get to hold the gun for 10 days finger ****ing it (CA).


    So glad I don't live in CA or WA anymore...
    I had a bad experience while living in CA. I had purchased a Ruger Vaquero as a graduation present for my cousin who was moving to TX for college and granted it was only 600-700 at the time I think. The FFL stated since it was "rare", not really it just had Mother of Pearl grips. They insisted on a 20% safe handling fee included in the tax. Funny thing was while they had the weapon on "15 day hold" they decided to go shoot it and the ended up breaking the action. I assume they dropped it or were doing something really stupid. They then attempted to tell me it came that way. I contacted my uncle an attorney and he came and spoke with them in a very terse manner. Needless to say I received a new weapon with a 30% discount and no fees/taxes etc... along with an apology. This shop went out of business a year later. Something about a fire destroying records and them selling to guys with swastika tattoos.
    Last edited by jklaughrey; 03-22-11 at 19:19.
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    I get everything online cheaper than gun shows, lot of stuff I can't even find at the show. Also got tired of parking in the north forty, getting raped on entrance fees and rubbing elbows with every asshole in the county. Not to mention thief's in the parking lot breaking into cars looking for guns.

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