Is the Scout light becoming obsolete?

[Belmont31R]

Im right handed, and I run a QD cup sling mount on the left side....thus the light goes on the right.

[Rezarf2]

To the OP, I have both 200 lumen scout and the 110 Lumen x300. I cannot tell a significant difference between the two outdoors at night at distance, say 50ish yards or so. However, if I come indoors the x300 wins hands down, though the difference isn't as apparent outdoors. Both throw light about the same with a noticeable hot spot for each. However the x300 wins in the spill departement, it really lights up the whole room well.

FWIW, my Scout is dedicated to the shotgun, and the x300 is on my handgun. The king of weapon lights in on my carbine, the m900ab turbohead.

If I had to have one light only though, it would be a x300 hands down. Maybe the x400 for giggles.

[glocktogo]

Having two 170 lumen X300s and two older 600a scout lights, I like them both. The scouts stay on my M16 and 590A1. One X300 stays on my 21SF with DG switch and the other is my backup/all other guns light.

I see no reason to consider the scout series as obsolete. I'd buy another one as readily as I would another X300. The X300 does win in the spill dept as has been pointed out, so it's better for entry work IMO.

[gkanga]

Coming from the .mil side, where simplicity and ruggedness rule, the 'clickie' tailcap will be forever loved by those who carry long guns routinely.

I would be hard pressed to think of an item less rugged and reliable than a Surefire clickie tailcap. Almost everybody I know with a clickie light has had it break and need a replacement. The tailcap on my E2L broke just a few months after I bought it, and when SF sent me the first replacement it was broken right out of the bag (that was a few years ago but I still have the tailcap they sent me sitting in its zip lock bag, it's still broken!). Maybe the reliability is better now, but for something fool proof I much prefer the G2 style push button momentary and screw in constant on.

[Pax]

I would be hard pressed to think of an item less rugged and reliable than a Surefire clickie tailcap.

Surprising. Never had any issue with my slew of SF Z series tailcaps. I think that trust in them is pretty prevalent here, as well. Perhaps you just had a bad experience?

I'd kill for someone to whip up a simple drop-in push-button battery cover for X300/400s. While some like the fit of the rock and lock switch against a fixed front BUIS, as Scottryan pointed out, I find the switches small and far more difficult to locate and operate than a bigass momentary button.

I also doubt that the M720V is going to forever replace a scout/KM3 combo. Looks too tall to be run at 12 o'clock, as X series lights most usually are. Wouldnt be surprised if it blocked PEQs, much less totally obscured the sight picture. Besides which, I believe the tailcap preference explained above will cause most users to opt for the simple and cheaper 600C/KM3 setup. So no. It's far from obsolete IMO.

[Eric D.]

Wouldn't a diffuser help with increasing spill?

I'm torn between the x300 and the mini scout m300a.
The m300a is more expensive, has less output, and shorter run time. It does, however, include the clickie talicap which is what I really want. It sounds like there isn't much noticeable difference between the output of m300a vs the x300. What do you guys think?

Having two 170 lumen X300s and two older 600a scout lights, I like them both. The scouts stay on my M16 and 590A1. One X300 stays on my 21SF with DG switch and the other is my backup/all other guns light.

I see no reason to consider the scout series as obsolete. I'd buy another one as readily as I would another X300. The X300 does win in the spill dept as has been pointed out, so it's better for entry work IMO.

[Belmont31R]

The X300 runs on 2 batteries. Mini scout on one. Less run time and lumens is to be expected.


As long as the mini-scout output is sufficient to you get the one with the activation method you want. To me thats more important than a slight difference in light output.

[SteveL]

I've been looking at these online and have a mounting question. My upper will have a TRX Extreme battle rail. I can put sections of rail anywhere on it I want to mount accessories. It looks like I could mount an M600C Scout light directly to one of these rail sections. Is this correct, or would I have to use something like the Gear Sector mount with it?

[Dos Cylindros]

I've been looking at these online and have a mounting question. My upper will have a TRX Extreme battle rail. I can put sections of rail anywhere on it I want to mount accessories. It looks like I could mount an M600C Scout light directly to one of these rail sections. Is this correct, or would I have to use something like the Gear Sector mount with it?

Yes you can mount a scout light diretcly to the modular rail sections. They come with their own mounts from the factory. The reason many people (me included) run an off set mount is because you can position the light in a better location (11:00 or 1:00 roughly) to be easily activated by your thumb. They also tuck the light up against the rail much better, resulting in a profile a little less prone to snagging on stuff.

[SteveL]

Yes you can mount a scout light diretcly to the modular rail sections. They come with their own mounts from the factory. The reason many people (me included) run an off set mount is because you can position the light in a better location (11:00 or 1:00 roughly) to be easily activated by your thumb. They also tuck the light up against the rail much better, resulting in a profile a little less prone to snagging on stuff.

Thanks for the reply. If I'm not mistaken I can mount a rail section in the 1:30 or 10:30 position on the TRX Extreme rail and then mount to that. I think that would eliminate the need for a separate offset mount.