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Thread: Dedicated suppressed upper port sizing and buffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keesh View Post
    You seem very adamant on pushing your opinion. You've already told him multiple times not to do it, yet that is not what he was asking for; he was asking for advice on port size specs and a buffer.

    Jesus ****ing Christ.

    How much more convicing you people need?

    This isn't going to work. The whole concept of a dedicated suppressed SBR is a fundamentally flawed concept. Shooting suppressed more than 20% of the time is unrealistic for any real world combat or law enforcement situation.

    This website is for professional gun use. It is not for "builds" (aka: abortions) like what the OP wants. You can use Red Jacket firearms for that.

    How are you going to handle a baffle strike when your silencer is full of patch particles and cleaning scurf?

    This website is about advising people with what they need, not what they want.
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    Get a 14.5"-16" barrel with proper gas port size and cut it down. You can't get a smaller port size on an available barrel and it will run great with a standard carbine spring and H2 buffer.


    The concept is only flawed because of the NFA. I'd say the same setup without the NFA and welding would be an optimal HD gun.

    You are looking at it from a stamp collector perspective, knowing you can't get the $200 back. Think if there were no such thing as an SBR and silencers were cheaper because more were made and sold without the tax. Without the tax a reasonably durable silencer would be $200-$300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    The concept is only flawed because of the NFA. I'd say the same setup without the NFA and welding would be an optimal HD gun.

    Todd,

    Lets get real. People that own silencers can put them on at will. I never think to myself that I need my silencer on all the time. I'd rather have a faster handling, shorter gun most of the time.

    Go through pictures of the war on terror. How many SF operators do you see with their KAC can on as opposed to off. They aren't governed by the NFA.

    The OP lives in Washington and he needs to deal with it.
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    All the time, no. On a HD gun that will be shoot without hearing protection, I think there are some good reasons to use a silencer.

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    I could be wrong, but I don't believe the OP is an "SF Operator" in Iraq. Just because YOU don't shoot suppressed all the time does not make it a bad idea or unrealistic.

    It also sounds as if he is trying to deal with living in WA.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    Todd,

    Lets get real. People that own silencers can put them on at will. I never think to myself that I need my silencer on all the time. I'd rather have a faster handling, shorter gun most of the time.

    Go through pictures of the war on terror. How many SF operators do you see with their KAC can on as opposed to off. They aren't governed by the NFA.

    The OP lives in Washington and he needs to deal with it.

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    I say do it OP, its your gun, you can weld a freakin statue of buddha on it if he makes you happy. start with a 16" to get a small gas port, have it cut down, then go from there. i had a DD16" M4 brl cut down and left the hole small. Its worked perfect with h2 buffer when i ran a can.

    now if you end up going to prison for shooting your can, not our fault

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    If the bill in front of the senate fails and it's still illegal to shoot suppressed, that's a misdemeanor. I'm not afraid of that if it comes down to a shooting in my house. Hell my ears ring badly enough already.

    And yes as a house gun there is a specific use for it. This won't be a high round count system. No need to even use patches.

    Btw I asked a buddy at the Ranger Batt how often they used their cans and he said more than you would think, particularly in Afghanistan. They average one lost KAC can a month while deployed, as the mounting system isn't the greatest.

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    i almost never shoot un-suppressed anymore,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    All the time, no. On a HD gun that will be shoot without hearing protection, I think there are some good reasons to use a silencer.

    Agree.

    I do the most of my carbine training in doors these days and a 10.5 is just brutal without a can.



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    For the record I shoot my SBR suppressed 95% of the time. That isn't the issue. I can also take it off.

    The real issues is that you are not going to notice the difference between a 14.5 and a 16 barrel with a suppressor on it.

    So why not do the smart thing and have it set up the smart way so that it can be removed if necessary?



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