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    I do my own gunsmithing.
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    IMHO the best "gunsmith" in the world is likely incapable of working on the AR, although if he was truly the best part of that would be knowing his own limitations and knowing when to turn work down.

    The internut is FULL of pictures of various guns totally FUBARed by 'smiths, and many times the owner actually DEFENDS the 'smith that so clearly damaged the gun and instead blames the guy that tries to tell him about the problems.

    Again, IMHO, you're better off learning things yourself, and doing things yourself. With the proper tools and the video series from Brownells there is very little you can **** up. The #1 cause of disasters that I see is people using the wrong tools. Followed immediately by a lack of understanding as to how things go together and/or work, and then a "force/grind/bash it" approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meplat View Post
    I've always found that gun smiths are far from, often times the very last, people I want to take advice from on firearms.
    I know at least 3 personally, and I can say without a doubt I have a far better understanding of ARs and what goes into a good one than they do. On the other hand, they all crush me on the numbers and tech knowledge, not to mention overall experience.
    I find that gun smiths are a lot like mechanics. They can certainly do more to fix a car than I can and generally know a lot more, but they often times have no idea what they're talking about or doing beyond the basic services they perform.
    thats exactly how i feel about it.

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    and thanks for the info rob s...great advice

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    When I got my AR I asked Gunsmith/armorer from work if he knew about AR's " Oh yeah easy to work on" he replied. So I asked him to put a End Plate Sling Mount for me, "No Problem !!!!!!". Well when I got the gun home took it out to shoot, pulled the trigger and CLICK, cleared the round recharged and CLICK. After clearing the gun I pulled the pin opened the upper and lower to find my buffer spring retaining pin and its spring in my trigger assembly. Then realized when he put my buffer tube back on he never seated it against the retaining pin and left the buffer 1/4 inch away. So I fixed it myself and come to realize " Im doing my own Sh*t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rojocorsa View Post
    Valkyrie Arms (not Tactical) of Milpitas, where I got my little bolt gun pretty much sells nothing but "evil black rifles." They are in the San Jose area. These guys have an 07 FFL; they also sell off-roster handguns legally such as Gen4 GLOCKs and XDms. Great store, they're not even a year old, but now they always seem to be busy.

    To be fair, last time I was there it was strictly business for getting my bolt gun, so I did not look at their ARs. I also had not been on this site prior to that, so I wouldn't have known the difference between LMT and RRA, for example.

    As for the store that wouldn't sell me a long gun. They suck. Not only do they not run the ventilation frequently at their indoor range, I've experienced FTFs/FTEs with several different handguns (including a Nighthawk Custom and 686 revolver). That tells me they don't maintain their guns properly.

    Living in the PRK and being a shooter isn't the easiest thing, but there are states that are worse off than we are.




    Gotcha.
    Wait... there is a way to get off roster handguns? The laws here are confusing as ****. Really, I don't know how the hell they wrote it. It's like they lit a mentally retarded monkey on fire, then had him scribble nonsense onto a piece of paper, and then threw it away just because and wrote something even more ridiculous, and then called it a law. That is what CA gun laws are like.

    I think this quote describe it best.
    "It's that thing that goes up."

    Anyhow, if I am ever in the area, I will make sure to stop by the store. It seems interesting. And as for states that have worse gun laws then us, we are nearly at the top, beaten only by New York and perhaps one or two other states.

    There would be a huge market for someone in the CA area who knew their shit regarding the AR platform and could competently smith stuff. Most of the gunstores here are full of bubbas and are run by bubbas who know very little about what they sell, including plain old hunting rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Find ManBearPig! View Post
    Wait... there is a way to get off roster handguns? The laws here are confusing as ****. Really, I don't know how the hell they wrote it. It's like they lit a mentally retarded monkey on fire, then had him scribble nonsense onto a piece of paper, and then threw it away just because and wrote something even more ridiculous, and then called it a law. That is what CA gun laws are like.

    I think this quote describe it best.
    "It's that thing that goes up."

    Anyhow, if I am ever in the area, I will make sure to stop by the store. It seems interesting. And as for states that have worse gun laws then us, we are nearly at the top, beaten only by New York and perhaps one or two other states.

    There would be a huge market for someone in the CA area who knew their shit regarding the AR platform and could competently smith stuff. Most of the gunstores here are full of bubbas and are run by bubbas who know very little about what they sell, including plain old hunting rifles.

    "Does that Remington 700 have an X-Mark trigger?"

    "Probably."
    PM about to be sent, so as to not derail this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpr8771 View Post
    good stuff...im seeing that im not the only one who has these experiences often.

    i do have one question about my experience today...the dude was showing me these ARs (dmps and rock rivers) that he said he customized and cut out a window on the left side of the upper receiver, put a charging handle on the bolt so you could charge without dropping the gun...does this work??? it did seem convenient but wasnt real pretty?????
    there are side charging AR's on the market but they dont really serve much of a purpose IMHO. I dont have to "drop" my ar to work the charging handle. That guys an idiot. Did he state why the Troy BUIS is a flawed design?
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    This reminds me of the time I went to my local gunstore and the guy is sitting behind the counter insisting that a glock is a double action only and telling me stories about Nam.

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    yea he was saying it was garbage because there is no vertical adjustment and the fact that the screw that tightens it on doesnt have enough thread sticking out the other side to put some kind of lock nut on it

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