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    Can someone tell me about my work gun

    I'm fairly new to the world of the AR but I'm learning. My dept issued me a new rifle with my new assignment and I haven't been able to find out much about it. I'm guessing it's NFA because it has burst, also, the barrel seems kinda short. I wasn't able to find anything on Bushmaster's website either. Basically, I just want to know if it's anything special. I know it's a Bushy but it shoots straight and it was free so onto the pics:





    Pics aren't great due to a lack of light and cell phone.

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    Looks to be Bushmasters Copy of the COLT M4 14.5 Barrel length select fire Semi auto and 3 round burst


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    So that makes it an SBR correct? Also, 14.5 includes the flash hider right? Can I shoot it if it's not department related, for practice etc or would I be breaking some fed law? No one at work seemed to know the answer to that one.

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    The same model Bushy we used in Iraq, except we had auto and not burst. Let me suggest the following;

    1. Put a Colt extractor spring assembly in it.

    2. Put at least an H buffer and maybe even an H2. Check to make sure it will run with your duty and training ammo.

    3. Make sure that the BCG is staked properly, my guess is it is not.

    4. Make sure that the castle nut is staked properly.



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    hearno,

    Your dept. should have paperwork if these were properly assembled and registered. Additionally your dept. should also have departmental guidelines or SOP's as to when, where and how you can use dept. issues weapons.

    If no one knows then I suggest that someone in the dept. do their homework and find out. If there is no policy, it would probably be a good idea to make one.

    Quote Originally Posted by hearno View Post
    So that makes it an SBR correct? Also, 14.5 includes the flash hider right? Can I shoot it if it's not department related, for practice etc or would I be breaking some fed law? No one at work seemed to know the answer to that one.



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    1. Not allowed to modify it.

    2. It actually has an H marked buffer

    3. It is "staked." Horribly tho. They barely touched the screws.

    4. It's not staked at all. Again, not allowed to really modify it. They might let me change the handguards or add a VFG but that's about it. Not really too forward thinking around here when it comes to weapons and set up. It's really unfortunate.

    ^^ No policy on use of duty weapons outside of departmental functions. We're going thru CALEA certification now so I'm guessing it will change soon tho. I was more concerned with fed laws than policy tho. Getting caught with a NFA gun doesn't sound like fun when a call is made to confirm who I am.
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    In your case because it is a burst gun, it's actually a machine gun and the SBR portion is irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by hearno View Post
    So that makes it an SBR correct? Also, 14.5 includes the flash hider right? Can I shoot it if it's not department related, for practice etc or would I be breaking some fed law? No one at work seemed to know the answer to that one.



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    Everything I have mentioned is a reliability upgrade and the way they are supposed to be done. I suggest that you speak with your dept. armorer.

    I suggest that you tell someone that it is supposed to be properly staked and by not doing so, there is a potential for it to fail. If they don't want to listen, then I don't know what to say.

    Colt M4's are properly staked from the factory and are configured correctly. It is the standard. No one is going "catch you" with an NFA weapon as long as it was issued by your dept. I believe that you could probably carry something on dept. letterhead or a copy of an approved Form 5.

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    1. Not allowed to modify it.

    2. It actually has an H marked buffer

    3. It is "staked." Horribly tho. They barely touched the screws.

    4. It's not staked at all. Again, not allowed to really modify it. They might let me change the handguards or add a VFG but that's about it. Not really too forward thinking around here when it comes to weapons and set up. It's really unfortunate.



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    Quote Originally Posted by hearno View Post
    1. Not allowed to modify it.

    2. It actually has an H marked buffer

    3. It is "staked." Horribly tho. They barely touched the screws.

    4. It's not staked at all. Again, not allowed to really modify it. They might let me change the handguards or add a VFG but that's about it. Not really too forward thinking around here when it comes to weapons and set up. It's really unfortunate.

    ^^ No policy on use of duty weapons outside of departmental functions. We're going thru CALEA certification now so I'm guessing it will change soon tho. I was more concerned with fed laws than policy tho. Getting caught with a NFA gun doesn't sound like fun when a call is made to confirm who I am.
    In my mind your not actualy modifying it your just "retracing" what should have been done at the factory and was not. Iraqgunz is right on the money and how the hell are they ever going to know?

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    Yeah my personal gun is a 6920. I can appreciate the advice and I know it's all for the best but like I said, very old school mentality that if it's not broke, don't fix it. No foresight.

    ^ You're right, they probably would never know but toting an NFA gun around and having a smith make mods to it might raise a question or two about whose gun it is. Plus, if I'm ever involved in a shooting with it, the gun would be scrutinized. Also, I love my job and modifying that gun could cost be that job if anyone found out. If they questioned me I couldn't lie and I'd get jammed.
    Last edited by hearno; 03-21-11 at 23:35.

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